Members Hope Drums Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 Do any of you guys have problems wearing off the coating from your snare head from playing cross-stick (aka rim knocks/clicks etc)? I play a LOT of country and blues and use the cross-stick about as much as a head strike...I'm on my 2nd head in two months and keep wearing a spot where I rest the butt of the stick on the head. I was wondering if any of you guys had the same problem? Did you find a solution? I'm going to experiment with the Evans kevlar patch and the clear patch in that spot to see how it effects the sound. I'm not wearing the head anywhere else, just where the butt rests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 I have an extra evans pad that came with my emad.. If ya want it just shoot me an e-mail or PM me and I'll send it in an envelopeCarpathian at comcast dot net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 BTW I don't do enough rim clicks to anwser your problem... sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BeakerArk Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 Nope. I also play the same type of music that requires many a rimclick. Have never had a coating fail at the point where the stick rests on the head. I should say I flip my stick when playing cross-stick patterns, w/ the tip of the stick resting on the head and the butt end of the stick strikin' the rim. I find that gives a very nice, clear, woody click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cearleywine Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 I should say I flip my stick when playing cross-stick patterns, w/ the tip of the stick resting on the head and the butt end of the stick strikin' the rim. I find that gives a very nice, clear, woody click. that certainly sounds the best, I use both ways depending on tune. Never had or heard of that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumtechdad Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 No. I flip my stick, too--better rim click sound and a longer sweet spot on the stick. Betcha if you flip your stick the problem goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted July 20, 2010 Members Share Posted July 20, 2010 I use a lot of side stick, I don't flip the stick either, have no head wear. Using Evans reverse PC. In fact I have minimal head wear after 2 years using this head period. Just some dirty shiny spots near the center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hope Drums Posted July 21, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 21, 2010 I've never had this problem before (20+ years of playing), wondering if something's changed with the G1s....I may just have to flip it over, that's what I do when I play traditional, just not when I play matched for ease. May have to change my technique a bit! Carpathian, thanks for the offer! I actually have 2-3 of them in my junk box, I don't use them either, but I hate to throw them away when I get a new head in......wife calls it junk collecting, I call it a back-up plan in dented head emergency! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carpathian Posted July 21, 2010 Members Share Posted July 21, 2010 Oh yeah it's your technique.:poke: I'm surprised no one has chimed in with that excuse yet... I myself have a large collectors box for the short time I've been playing:facepalm:.. soon it will be donated to the TBOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted July 21, 2010 Members Share Posted July 21, 2010 http://www.zazzle.com/crucifix_hat-148961625774990102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members johnrobbsmusic Posted July 21, 2010 Members Share Posted July 21, 2010 When i read the title, I thought of a hat or beenie w/two sticks crossing.... and no...I don't really cross stick much, so I don't notice it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members race81 Posted July 21, 2010 Members Share Posted July 21, 2010 ive been cross sticking for the past 20 years. never had the coating disappear. I don,t rotate unless I need more volume. The past 10 years ive been using evans heads.......but never the g1 for a snare. Right now have a genera dry and have noticed no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted July 22, 2010 Members Share Posted July 22, 2010 Could be method then. Deftly rolling as opposed to rubbing. Also if you do a lot of switching, rough landings could be the source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marko46 Posted July 22, 2010 Members Share Posted July 22, 2010 Interesting. I have never heard of this problem/issue. I cross stick in the blues band, but I don't place enough pressure on the head end to rub of coating. Flipping does sound better so I do do that. Can't believe it's such an issue that your thinking of putting a patch on. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hope Drums Posted July 22, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 22, 2010 Can't believe it's such an issue that your thinking of putting a patch on. JMO This is a relatively new issue, never had the problem before. Did it on the stock Taye head on my GoKit (chalked it up to being a stock head) and now starting to show signs of wear on my G1. I actually have 3-4 different 14" heads coming in so I can experiment with sound, the Genera happens to be one of them, maybe that'll help. I see to run into "odd" issues....was using PM727s (japanese oak) stick supposed to be the strongest....they kept breaking straight just at the neck...PM sent me 4 new pairs, same thing..... Switched to 420s (hickory) which aren't supposed to be as durable as the oak....I've been playing on them for 2 years now I guess and have broken 1, some of them are so wore down that the neck looks like a pencil..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boomboomdrums Posted July 22, 2010 Members Share Posted July 22, 2010 When I have a coated head on my snare drum, I get this. When I do the cross stick thing, the head of the stick that's in contact with the head wears off the paint. I never really thought of it as a problem though, just kindof the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marko46 Posted July 22, 2010 Members Share Posted July 22, 2010 This is a relatively new issue, never had the problem before. Did it on the stock Taye head on my GoKit (chalked it up to being a stock head) and now starting to show signs of wear on my G1. I actually have 3-4 different 14" heads coming in so I can experiment with sound, the Genera happens to be one of them, maybe that'll help.Switched to 420s (hickory) which aren't supposed to be as durable as the oak....I've been playing on them for 2 years now I guess and have broken 1, some of them are so wore down that the neck looks like a pencil..... I like Hickory too.I could see the Taye stock head coating failing, any stock head for that matter but it's still odd. When you say signs of wear on your G1, wear as in the coating is coming off, of an indentation of some sorts. I'ma cross stick tonight at rehearsal a bunch and see if I can wear some off for {censored}s and giggles. If ya see TeeDrum on here, ask him if he knows any country playa's that have this problem.Are the butt ends of you sticks "open grained"? maybe just take some 150 grit sandpaper and smooth them out a bit. Just a thought. marko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vinniewannabe Posted July 22, 2010 Members Share Posted July 22, 2010 It's just a wear mark. Come on, just play your drums. This is topic-worthy? It's like asking, "when I hit my drumheads, it makes marks. Should I change my heads after I play my drums?" This topic is messed up two-fold. First, that you are getting marks on your drumheads (no kidding), second, you are getting them by playing side-stick?? You are thinking about putting a patch on the head....because it leaves marks? Are you serious??? You got me then. Big time. God I'm a schmuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumtechdad Posted July 22, 2010 Members Share Posted July 22, 2010 Spoilsport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hope Drums Posted July 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 you are getting marks on your drumheads (no kidding), thinking about putting a patch on the head....because it leaves marks? If it were just marks, no biggie, but I'm eating through the coating. Marko, I think you may have hit it on the head! I checked some of my sticks and some of them are rough on the butt! (okay neither of those sentences sounded right) Don't know why I didn't think about that, but that's probably the cause! I think this latest batch of sticks is a little rougher than normal on the end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marko46 Posted July 25, 2010 Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 Hope that works. Vinnie, if it's a drum related issue, than it should be an addressed drum related issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cearleywine Posted July 25, 2010 Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 What sticks are you using Brian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hope Drums Posted July 25, 2010 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 Promark 420 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members manoeuver Posted July 25, 2010 Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 do you need coating right there? are you sure? naaaaah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marko46 Posted July 25, 2010 Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 do you need coating right there? are you sure? naaaaah. Good point right there.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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