Members Thunderbroom Posted April 2, 2006 Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 I may have asked about this in the past (gettin' old ya know). Last night at our gig, I was having trouble hearing my amp. I could feel it through the stage, but I couldn't hear it very well. Would putting the cab/head on a chair work a little better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Addix Metzatricity Posted April 2, 2006 Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 Absolutely! I had trouble hearing myself when I was using my 4x10. When I switched to the 2x10 & 1x15, I could hear it so much better since the 10s were closer to my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted April 2, 2006 Moderators Share Posted April 2, 2006 Anytime you can raise the cabinet closer to ear level it'll be easier to hear. Sometimes I stack my two 2x10s vertically even when only using one cabinet. I like how that setup sounds quite a bit on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burdizzos Posted April 2, 2006 Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 Yep, it's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L-1329 Posted April 2, 2006 Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 How about putting it on an Avatar 115? Glad the gig went well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted April 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 Originally posted by Kindness Anytime you can raise the cabinet closer to ear level it'll be easier to hear. Sometimes I stack my two 2x10s vertically even when only using one cabinet. I like how that setup sounds quite a bit on stage. I did have my single 210 vertical and normally don't have trouble hearing myself. The room we played was very boomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted April 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 Originally posted by L-1329 How about putting it on an Avatar 115? Thought about it...but I'd rather just set it on a chair instead of lugging that beast out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitars69 Posted April 2, 2006 Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 I've always contemplated getting a road case for my cab, then at gigs, pull the cab out and place it on top. it'll be like having two cabs but only paying for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Retrovertigo Posted April 2, 2006 Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 you could build a wedge to put under it. that way it's pointing at your head and still coupled to the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted April 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 Originally posted by Retrovertigo you could build a wedge to put under it. that way it's pointing at your head and still coupled to the stage. Ya know, I thought about this. My concern about tilting back my cab is that my rack/head may slip off the cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tylytle Posted April 2, 2006 Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 I used to use the drummers kick drum case. worked well. I have also used a table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Retrovertigo Posted April 2, 2006 Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 Originally posted by Thunderbroom Ya know, I thought about this. My concern about tilting back my cab is that my rack/head may slip off the cab. whenever I tilt my cab back, I just stand my rack on its side next to the cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bigby Posted April 2, 2006 Members Share Posted April 2, 2006 Yeah, but be sure you have it stabilized well so it doesn't rock off. I actually built a simple wood box to set my cab on and it worked well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Deacon_blue Posted April 3, 2006 Members Share Posted April 3, 2006 When I bought my Yorkville 2x10 the guy who sold it to me said to keep it coupled to the floor.You might have a better time hearing it elevated but your audience might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thumper Posted April 3, 2006 Members Share Posted April 3, 2006 I've got a 2x10 on top of a 1x15 cab, so I can always hear myself (not that it's always a good thing ). It's important to hear your bass as well as feel it, so by all means elevate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cortfan Posted April 3, 2006 Members Share Posted April 3, 2006 If you are using your cab as a stage monitor, put your rack on a box to the side and put your cab on a folding chair or a cab stand. Those folding chairs are about the right height and angle for a smaller cab. If its for backline, I would leave the cab on the floor, as someone else suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted April 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 3, 2006 Originally posted by Cortfan If you are using your cab as a stage monitor, put your rack on a box to the side and put your cab on a folding chair or a cab stand. Those folding chairs are about the right height and angle for a smaller cab. If its for backline, I would leave the cab on the floor, as someone else suggested. Good to know. My guitarists checked out the club we're playing in two weeks. The stage is small (especially for the size of our band). We're going to go with stage volume and only run the vocals through the monitors. I'm thinking maybe I should bring both cabs for this gig (to keep them coupled to the floor) and just not turn up loud. I can then hear my bass better anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted April 3, 2006 CMS Author Share Posted April 3, 2006 Originally posted by Thunderbroom The room we played was very boomy. This is the key. You might have been helped by raising the cab, but a boomy room usually means its got a lot of low end nodes that are boosting some frequencies and cutting others, and it all depends where you're standing. You could help this a bit with a parametric EQ to compensate for the room's {censored}ty response. Without one, cut your bass EQ on the amp, boost the mids to see if it helps, and hope for the best....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassment zombie Posted April 3, 2006 Members Share Posted April 3, 2006 I've got some milkcrates I keep in my car specifically in case I ever need to lift the amp up to hear better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members coyote-1 Posted April 3, 2006 Members Share Posted April 3, 2006 And THIS is why a full stack is such a useful thing. Originally posted by Deacon_blue When I bought my Yorkville 2x10 the guy who sold it to me said to keep it coupled to the floor.You might have a better time hearing it elevated but your audience might not. You get the benefits of floor-coupling, PLUS you have a cab up where you can hear it. It allows you to lower your volume level, which benefits you AND the band AND the audience AND THE SOUNDGUY. One other thing: A full bass stack (particularly if you're using 2x10s stacked vertically) generally fits in a compact car. Unless you're physically feeble or you're taking the train to your gig, an unwillingness to equip yourself properly smacks of sheer laziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassius Posted April 3, 2006 Members Share Posted April 3, 2006 i'd get an amp stand were i you, i think putting cabs on chairs looks ghetto but that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted April 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 3, 2006 Originally posted by Bassius i'd get an amp stand were i you, I have an amp stand (for guitar). The cab sits on there fine, but the rack won't. Shoud I just set it (the rack) on the floor? I've never tried this. Are there any issues running an amp vertically instead of horizontal? It seems that it would put undue stress on the rack ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bassius Posted April 3, 2006 Members Share Posted April 3, 2006 Originally posted by Thunderbroom I have an amp stand (for guitar). The cab sits on there fine, but the rack won't. Shoud I just set it (the rack) on the floor? I've never tried this. Are there any issues running an amp vertically instead of horizontal? It seems that it would put undue stress on the rack ears. i've do this. setting the rack on it's side. gravity shouldn't have any altered effect on the rack regardless of it's postition. the same amount of weight is distributed between the rackears whether it's horizontal or vertical... but hey, i'm no engineer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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