Members Thunderbroom Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 It's -7F right now with a windchill of -22F. My car won't start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brake Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Pfft. -40 isn't uncommon here. ..no, really though, that sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted February 5, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Pfft. -40 isn't uncommon here. ..no, really though, that sucks Just another reason for me to not live in Canadia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gaui Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 The global warming is here, last week it was around 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brake Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Just another reason for me to not live in Canadia. Meh, I don't mind the cold all that much. I don't have to walk anywhere in it if I don't want to - As long as I don't gotta shovel snow, I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted February 5, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Meh, I don't mind the cold all that much. I don't have to walk anywhere in it if I don't want to - As long as I don't gotta shovel snow, I'm good. I don't mind the cold either, except when it's so cold my car won't start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fireball_73 Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Warmest winter on record since 1916 here! I want snow! I walked out the door yesterday and it felt like April or May... Don't worry, when the worst of is here most of the forumites wont... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JanVanHove Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Average temperatures over the whole globe have gone up by 0.72 C over the last 100 years... That's where global warming is, not in anyone's cold spell, heat wave or tropical storm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted February 5, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Average temperatures over the whole globe have gone up by 0.72 C over the last 100 years... That's where global warming is, not in anyone's cold spell, heat wave or tropical storm... Almost three-quarters of a degree in 100 years. That's insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members citizenralph Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 I don't mind the cold either, except when it's so cold my car won't start. I mind! I had to change a tire on Saturday on my sons car. AAA was too busy to get to him (I've had AAA for years and this was the first time I tried to use them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mike fitzwell Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 I don't mind the cold either, except when it's so cold my car won't start. How come your car wasn't in the garage last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members B-Bottom Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 I mind! I had to change a tire on Saturday on my sons car. AAA was too busy to get to him (I've had AAA for years and this was the first time I tried to use them). nice avatar by the way i can't stand the cold and this morning was just insane. I was really suprised my car turned over at all. I want to move into a warmer climate like you wouldn't believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Almost three-quarters of a degree in 100 years. That's insane. No sh*t! I was going to start a thread on the same subject. Doesn't help that my car has no heat. Anyway, if we never have another cold spell like this due to global warming, I'll be a happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted February 5, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 How come your car wasn't in the garage last night? I have a two-car garage. My wife's van is in one spot; my band's PA is in the other. What I sacrifice for the band! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JanVanHove Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Almost three-quarters of a degree in 100 years. That's insane. Well, yes it is because if it continues at the same rate it's going at today, at the end of the present century it's gonna be 3-5 degrees more... and 5 degrees in average global temperatures is roughly the difference between an ice age and an interglacial period... That's the problem with the current climate change debate, the "real" numbers are not glamorous enough (+0.72 C over a century, the sea level rising by 3mm each year, Arctic sea ice decreasing by 3% per decade) to make for interesting news, so both alarmists and skeptics are screaming about other things... my 2 climate cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y-o-y Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 It was 81 here yesterday. That is about 11 degrees warmer then normal, but it was damn nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted February 5, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 Well, yes it is because if it continues at the same rate it's going at today, at the end of the present century it's gonna be 3-5 degrees more... and 5 degrees in average global temperatures is roughly the difference between an ice age and an interglacial period...That's the problem with the current climate change debate, the "real" numbers are not glamorous enough (+0.72 C over a century, the sea level rising by 3mm each year, Arctic sea ice decreasing by 3% per decade) to make for interesting news, so both alarmists and skeptics are screaming about other things...my 2 climate cents... You do realize that 30 years ago that there was an outcry about global cooling, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JanVanHove Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 You do realize that 30 years ago that there was an outcry about global cooling, don't you? yes, I do, and in fact I'm also of the opinion that climate change and carbon dioxide emission, although related, should not be part of the same debate... Energy use in the western world is problematic, wether it contributes to climate change or not, and at some point, when oil is going to run out, {censored} is gonna hit the fan and global warming is going to be the least of our worries... But that's a matter for another thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thunderbroom Posted February 5, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 yes, I do, and in fact I'm also of the opinion that climate change and carbon dioxide emission, although related, should not be part of the same debate... Energy use in the western world is problematic, wether it contributes to climate change or not, and at some point, when oil is going to run out, {censored} is gonna hit the fan and global warming is going to be the least of our worries...But that's a matter for another thread... I'd be much more concerned about the use of fossil fuels in China than I would in the US and Europe. Did they sign the Kyoto agreement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JanVanHove Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 I'd be much more concerned about the use of fossil fuels in China than I would in the US and Europe. Did they sign the Kyoto agreement? Yup, that's part of the problem, china's economy is growing rapidly, along with it's energy consuption. At this stage the west has no viable alternative to oil for many parts or the economy, not just energy, and we are in no position to tell china to slow down growth just because they are threathening our supply... They are still far from catching up on us, but growing very fast... We need, as a society, to have a strong commitment towards alternative energy sources on the one hand, and towards a reduction in total enery consuption on the other hand, and then we can actually tell the rest of the world how to do it... Chances are it ain't gonna happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rippin' Robin Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 We need, as a society, to have a strong commitment towards alternative energy sources on the one hand, and towards a reduction in total enery consuption on the other hand, and then we can actually tell the rest of the world how to do it... No way. We just gotta burn up all the oil before the Chinese get to it first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 It was 81 here yesterday. That is about 11 degrees warmer then normal, but it was damn nice! My point exactly. [brrrrr...] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 when oil is going to run out, {censored} is gonna hit the fan and global warming is going to be the least of our worries... But that's a matter for another thread... It's a good thing we didn't run out back in the 70's... or 80's... or 90's... or early 00's too... the simple fact that nobody has a real clue to where and how much oil there is on the planet makes this "argument" silly. after all, most "science types" who buy in to this "world is ending" nonsense are the same people that would spout evolution as being scientific fact- well, ok then. if the earth is meant to survive, shouldn't it just suck it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 The Earth will do fine. It's about saving our own collective ass. You know, our children.Oil reserves, their size and location have been well known for over 30 years so I don't know exactly what you're trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tim in WV Posted February 5, 2007 Members Share Posted February 5, 2007 its simple. If there is untold mounts of money to be made supporting a public policy position, the science will support it, because the great majority of today's scientific research is funded by tax dollars. Like everything else, it's driven by profit, as sure as the Iraq and Vietnam wars were. http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming020507.htm I think this guy is right. It's a natural cycle tht we cannot control, and there are trillions of dollars to be made from claiming the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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