Members Phantasm Posted March 31, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 Cool test.There is my friend, there is. Hmm... interesting! Are these a european creation, or are they available in the states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jazz Ad Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 They're French and widely available in USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 AWESOME! THANKS! i really want a Fulltone.... the EBS also rocks the house...and have you tried the Turbo Rats? theyre much better as far as it concerns bass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 AWESOME! THANKS! i really want a Fulltone.... the EBS also rocks the house... and have you tried the Turbo Rats? theyre much better as far as it concerns bass... Really? Awesome. Did you happen to make any clips when you tried it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hey Gutter! i went to the music store today and if i had an amp at home right now, i'd have brought the Marshall Guv'nor to give it a try! please review it, i was very very intrigued! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 Really? Awesome. Did you happen to make any clips when you tried it?no, havent had one at home, i didnt buy it at the time cose it was pretty expensive here... still is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 If you can find a way to put low end back in AFTER the clipping/distorting is done on a RAT (make a four-knob rat, perhaps) then I am VERY interested in how your experiments progress.cool man. i'll figure something out. i'm thinking adding a blend control might be the best route with it but, the only one i have here is an 80's model and i'm not about to go ripping it apart to experiment on it the one i've got coming should be here wednesday so we'll see shortly after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 OOOOO let me know how the guv'nor turns out.will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hey Gutter! i went to the music store today and if i had an amp at home right now, i'd have brought the Marshall Guv'nor to give it a try! please review it, i was very very intrigued!well. i've played both the english and korean made ones and the english one killed (whereas the korean made ones sound like doodoo in a box). i think worst case scenario i'll pick up a korean one as well and try to figure out the differences in the two so i'll be able to mod the korean ones to sound good. the english models have started bringing stupid amounts of money ( around 2 bills or so ) and have gotten pretty hard to find so they're not gonna be a feasible candidate for mods but, if i can make the korean ones sound good then we'll be in business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 well. i've played both the english and korean made ones and the english one killed (whereas the korean made ones sound like doodoo in a box). i think worst case scenario i'll pick up a korean one as well and try to figure out the differences in the two so i'll be able to mod the korean ones to sound good. the english models have started bringing stupid amounts of money ( around 2 bills or so ) and have gotten pretty hard to find so they're not gonna be a feasible candidate for mods but, if i can make the korean ones sound good then we'll be in business i think the one in my store in English made... if it is, is it safe for me to snag? its on the cheap side now...... how does it keep the lows? what does it do better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 i think the one in my store in English made... if it is, is it safe for me to snag? its on the cheap side now...... how does it keep the lows? what does it do better? if it's less than a hundred bucks snag it now.i had a pair of them come in for repairs from the same customer about 6 months ago - one english and one korean. i didn't play bass through them (the customer was a guitar player and was having some specific issues) but, the english made one sounded like an actual amp and the korean was just buzzy,harsh and just sounded bad in general. looking at the schematic - it looks like it will be good to go with a bass with very minimal mods so you might be able to get away with using it stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 if it's less than a hundred bucks snag it now.i had a pair of them come in for repairs from the same customer about 6 months ago - one english and one korean. i didn't play bass through them (the customer was a guitar player and was having some specific issues) but, the english made one sounded like an actual amp and the korean was just buzzy,harsh and just sounded bad in general. looking at the schematic - it looks like it will be good to go with a bass with very minimal mods so you might be able to get away with using it stock. its only 60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 its only 60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Optimus Prime Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 cool - it should say on the battery cover where it was made.if it looks like this : and says "made in england" on the battery cover - get it. if you don't like it you could flip it on ebay (or,just sell it to me ) So the new gold ones suck? I've always wanted to try the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 So the new gold ones suck? I've always wanted to try the original.yeah. suck is an understatement i haven't seen schematics for both though so it may just be a couple of components difference:idk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Optimus Prime Posted April 1, 2008 Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 yeah. suck is an understatement i haven't seen schematics for both though so it may just be a couple of components difference:idk: I put an original one on watch on eBay. If this Blowtorch doesn't work out I might see if I can get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phantasm Posted April 1, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 cool man. i'll figure something out. i'm thinking adding a blend control might be the best route with it but, the only one i have here is an 80's model and i'm not about to go ripping it apart to experiment on it the one i've got coming should be here wednesday so we'll see shortly after that Well, I busted out my trusty Bass Pod XT last night and tried using the RAT model with a graphic EQ after it. "Inside the box" the results were very good, enough to make me wonder if "outside the box" I could duplicate it. Using a low drive setting and putting the lows back in with the graphic, it was a rather nice overdrive that sat well in the mix of a track (that's usually my big test, I open Sonar and try to play along to a track to see if the bass vanishes or sounds "too seperated.")FWIW. I'll have to play with it some more, I suppose... and maybe it's time to order some graphic EQ pedals, or build a low shelf EQ circuit for testing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted April 1, 2008 Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 There's a rat for sale on my local craigslist but I don't know how to tell the US and korean versions apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted April 1, 2008 Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 Well, I busted out my trusty Bass Pod XT last night and tried using the RAT model with a graphic EQ after it. "Inside the box" the results were very good, enough to make me wonder if "outside the box" I could duplicate it. Using a low drive setting and putting the lows back in with the graphic, it was a rather nice overdrive that sat well in the mix of a track (that's usually my big test, I open Sonar and try to play along to a track to see if the bass vanishes or sounds "too seperated.")FWIW. I'll have to play with it some more, I suppose... and maybe it's time to order some graphic EQ pedals, or build a low shelf EQ circuit for testing... i've played bass through the one i have and they are pretty close to being useable stock.looking at the schematic i would think that upping the input cap a bit, tweaking the values in the feedback loop and upping the cap going into the buffer would probably get it happenin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted April 1, 2008 Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 There's a rat for sale on my local craigslist but I don't know how to tell the US and korean versions apart.as far as i know rats are all us made.i have a preference for the less fuzzy more overdrive-y models (specifically the small box,non-led model) but they all have some good sounds in 'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phantasm Posted April 1, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 i've played bass through the one i have and they are pretty close to being useable stock.looking at the schematic i would think that upping the input cap a bit, tweaking the values in the feedback loop and upping the cap going into the buffer would probably get it happenin'.All reasons why I'm curious to see how your experimentation goes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted April 1, 2008 Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 as far as i know rats are all us made.i have a preference for the less fuzzy more overdrive-y models (specifically the small box,non-led model) but they all have some good sounds in 'em Oh I thought you were talking about the rat up there ^Guess not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted April 1, 2008 Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 Oh I thought you were talking about the rat up there ^ Guess not hahahaha. no. we were talking about the marshall guv'nor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted April 1, 2008 Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 hahahaha. no. we were talking about the marshall guv'nor Cool, I just messaged him asking for how much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phantasm Posted April 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 2, 2008 I think I may have to fix up another one of those Crowther Hotcake pedals - I think my guitarist has pretty much laid claim to the first one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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