Members L. Ron Hoover Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 So, what are your preferences for EQ format on an amp or preamp? The poll is sort of general so if what you like to see isn't on there, just post what you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 The poll eh? /waits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bryan316 Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 FLAT. If an amp is truly a good quality amp, it'll sound good without needing any EQ tweaking. Straight-up, it should rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L. Ron Hoover Posted January 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 FLAT. If an amp is truly a good quality amp, it'll sound good without needing any EQ tweaking. Straight-up, it should rock. Right, but no one would buy a bass amp without an EQ on it. There are times when EQ is necessary. You are right, though, an amp should sound great with the EQ flat (or defeated ). Believe me, that's foremost in my mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 22, 2009 Moderators Share Posted January 22, 2009 As long as I know what it is doing, I can use almost any stack. However, for me to achieve my goals, I find these ranges most helpful: 80-125 Hz (boom), 250 Hz (thickness), 800 Hz (smoothness). As long as I can manipulate those three areas, I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hamer-Bass-Head Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 As long as I know what it is doing, I can use almost any stack. However, for me to achieve my goals, I find these ranges most helpful: 80-125 Hz (boom), 250 Hz (thickness), 800 Hz (smoothness). As long as I can manipulate those three areas, I'm good. I agree but often I find myself reaching for 1200 Hz (snottiness). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 I voted "Active 4 band, fixed frequencies" , but "Passive low and hi; active lo mid and hi mid" suits me just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'm comfortable with Gain, Treble, Mids, Bass, all +/- which I guess is "Active"? Although mid sweeps and freq controls do help, I find that best suited for FOH stuff to get a lot of "punch" and "depth" from the FOH PA. But again everything (sans the Charvel) has active onboard EQ w/ mid switches and stuff, so my amp needs are or can be basic compared to others, who are stuck with just volume, volume, tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burdizzos Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 I find that I can get the best sound out of an amp with a fully parametric EQ. That said, it's a pain in the ass to use live. If I've got an amp on stage that I may need to adjust during a performance, I prefer a graphic EQ because it's easier to grab the slider that I want on the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roguetitan Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 4 band all semi parametric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 So, what are your preferences for EQ format on an amp or preamp?I strongly prefer all passive (V/V/T) controls on my basses. As for the amp or pre-amp, I love to have total control over the mids. I'm fine with just a knob for bass and treble. But I want fully parametric (or maybe semi-parametric) controls over high- and low-mids. I'm also a real fan of how the Phil Jones Bass preamps are voiced. They have sliders (or knobs) for low-bass, high-bass, low-mids, high-mids, and treble. Even though you can't control the sweep and/or width of the mids, I'm happy with the tone I can get out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 to me, i just like to keep it simple on the amps... i use the EQ on my GK all at 12' with a boost on the mids, and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 I like having a graphic and then Low/low-Mid/high-mid semi-para/high. I can do without the graphic but I do like to have the option. I liked the Shuttle's EQ pretty well, and I'm more than OK with the Mesa's (low/mid/high/graphic). On basses I like bass/mid/treble/pickup balance/and a switch of some sort. It's nice to get your amp set the way you want, and then dial for different songs from the bass. I like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knuckle_head Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 I picked 4 band full parametric - but then I needs stuff most don't. Realistically, if you had a switched bass frequency to address E and slightly lower than B you ought to be good, and there ain't nothing wrong with a fixed treble. As that goes you could probably do well with switched mids too - two sets of controls for Q and boost/cut and a two- or three-way switch for frequencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mytola Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 I really like the layout of my drome 15". Bass, semi-parametric mids, treble and bright. Full bright and the rest flat works very well for slap. A bit of mid boost around 800hz works good for fingerstyle. That said, I'm not really picky on this. As long as I at least can add some mids around 800hz, I'm pretty happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bryan316 Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 My new Ibby Prestige has a sweepable midrange. I no longer touch my amp even for room acoustics, this thing is like having MAGIC at your fingertips. I can dial incredibly precise, I can use it like a wah and sweep back and forth like crazy, and I can get MAD honkin' mid boost for solos and noodling. My amp's EQ is now officially obsolete! m/ Okay that's untrue... heh heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 That said, I'm not really picky on this. As long as I at least can add some mids around 800hz, I'm pretty happy. 500-800hz = teh good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members collinwho Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 I prefer a 3-band Semi Parametric. Fixed Lows and Highs, Sweepable Mids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hammer744 Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 I voted Other - I like the 3 band active on my Fender P Special. I leave the GBE head basically flat (a little cut on the high end) and I adjust on the bass as required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rippin' Robin Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 If it will let me boost low-mids, I'm a happy camper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted January 22, 2009 Members Share Posted January 22, 2009 I like things simple , I've needed EQ in different rooms before but less the better . I think a EQ bypass is a big + , I like to take it out of the chain if it's not needed . I recall my old Demeter pre sounded much better when the DI was pre EQ Some amps are brighter too and a graphic cut in the mids gives you the classic rounder tone , it's nice if it has buttons and sliders and switches I will push'em but in the end I usually like'em off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members L. Ron Hoover Posted January 23, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 23, 2009 Ok, so here's what I have in mind: Stompbox preamp/line driver/DI: 40+dB of gain Capable of 6VRMS (+18dB) on the line output (enough to drive any power amp) Switchable HPF: Out; 30Hz; 50Hz 3 band EQ. Low and high shelving, baxandall-type (will interact with each other a bit). Low shelf at about 60Hz, high shelf at about 7k. Basically everything below the low shelf point and above the high shelf point will be equally boosted or attenuated. Semi-parametric mid, sweepable from 200Hz to about 4kHz. All +/-15dB. Defeatable with a switch. Any more EQ than this in a stompbox-type affair isn't really feasible, PCB real estate and power consumption-wise Transformer balanced DI (Lundahl transformer) pre or post EQ. Will require a pair of 9 Volts or an 18V adapter. I have this breadboarded on my bench right now and it's sounding good. The EQ is quite responsive and musical. Next step is a perfboard prototype. Next would be a full-on rackmount preamp. I was thinking of doing a 2-band passive tone stack (defeatable) with a 4 band active EQ. I was thinking of using fixed Low and high bands and 2 sweepable mids with switchable bandwidth controls (wide and tight), but perhaps I'd add a frequency sweep on the active low and high. It also occurred to me that offering a couple of different EQ formats could be feasible. Say, an optional 4 band fixed frequency EQ as well as what I just described. Since I've been laid off, I've been putting in a lot of hours at these projects. I'm seriously considering taking these projects to the commercialization level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members philthygeezer Posted January 23, 2009 Members Share Posted January 23, 2009 I don't practice enough to develop preference. I like everything from passive VVT to 2 band 'Ray to 3 band Bongo. That said, I like simple. Usually flat or flat with a bit of bass and a little less treble. Depends on my noodly mood and what the song on the radio sounds like. I don't like scooped. Warm, thumpy and growly for me. JPJ 'Lemon Song' style. I like the Timbre controls on the Thunderfunk and the VLE/VPF on the LMK II to achieve the right sound. Mostly I don't mess with the EQ knobs on either bass or amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xOriginalNinjax Posted January 23, 2009 Members Share Posted January 23, 2009 I prefer a 4 band on my amp, and either a 3-band EQ on the bass or a passive tone control on my basses. I HATE not being able to control my mids at the bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny_Crab Posted January 23, 2009 Members Share Posted January 23, 2009 Other = parametric(3 band min. with sweepable frequencies) + graphic(5 band min.) + "standard" fixed(bass-mid-treble on amp)or bass-treble(on BOSE) That said, I do use EXTREME settings just short of being noisy to get useful stuff out of gear if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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