Members omg_otters Posted November 16, 2008 Members Share Posted November 16, 2008 http://media.putfile.com/Man-Who-Sold-The-World - Man Who Sold the Worldhttp://media.putfile.com/Hallelujah-91-38 - Hallelujahhttp://soundclick.com/share?songid=6428096 - Moondahhttp://media.putfile.com/Shangri-La-87 - Shangri Lahttp://soundclick.com/share?songid=6106533 - Blue Moonhttp://soundclick.com/share?songid=6425419 - Night Timehttp://soundclick.com/share?songid=6593525 - Old Friendshttp://soundclick.com/share?songid=6137123 - Out on the Weekendhttp://media.putfile.com/Track-1_011-2 - Watch the Sunrisehttp://soundclick.com/share?songid=6487509 - Watch The Sunrise (a little bit earlier.... ruined by second track)http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6403460 - You and Your Sister We've been playing together since we've been together. He's 18 and I'm 17. These go all the way back to when he was 15 and I was 14. Do you think he's good enough for us to play out in front of other people? Good in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted November 16, 2008 Members Share Posted November 16, 2008 Sure, the vocals on these recordings seem fine. Most of the tracks I listened to, however, were oddly mixed, with the guitar upfront and the vocals way in the back. This makes it hard to hear the vocals, and I don't think this way of mixing works very well aesthetically. I would back off on the guitar, which would bring the vocals more out front. The Neil Young track--Out on the Weekend--has a much better mix: Here the guitar seems only a little too out front--just bit further back and you've got it! Sweet harmonies here too! But yeah, get out and play for people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members omg_otters Posted November 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 17, 2008 What would you say his range is? Just how he sounds in general? I think So Real, Out on the Weekend, and Blue Moon are the best SOUNDING ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted November 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 What are the advantages of using compression on vocals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted November 21, 2008 Members Share Posted November 21, 2008 Compression reduces the dynamic range of sound. This can make a voice sound fuller, more stable, as it reduces the effect of unintended fluctuations in volume. Too much compression makes a voice sound "squashed," meaning that even intended dynamic variation is minimized. This may reduce your ability to sing expressively. Generally, some compression on vocals is a good thing, but be careful not to over do it--unless you're looking to use the squashed sound as an effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted November 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 24, 2008 Best description of compression evar thank you. What would you say my bfs range is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted November 26, 2008 Members Share Posted November 26, 2008 I just listened to the first one, and it's clear he can carry a tune, which is honestly more than enough these days. I agree about the mix; also, he may need to "grow into" his voice. This took me a long time to do. People who aren't yet comfortable with their voice tend to mix it low and to add more effects than is really necessary. Last week I recorded a cut for a local compilation CD and, despite not having at all what anyone would consider a "good voice" by any traditional standard, there are no effects at all on it. I think beginning vocalists tend to think that adding effects can make a weak vocal sound better. All they do is make it sound like a weak vocal with effects on top. A very common mistake of people who aren't comfortable with their voice is to "undersing" (yes, sfaik I just made that word up) because they're afraid of not hitting notes. Singing OUT always sounds better. I had a singer in a band long ago who was notorious for this. My wife called it "ghost singing," which is kinda evocative of what it sounds like. The other thing about singing like that is, in a rock band sitch with drums and such at least, it NEVER works live. You gotta eat the mic and sing out, or forgeddaboudit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted November 26, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2008 Could you do me a favor and listen to Shangri La or Out on the Weekend and tell me what you think? I did a better job not totally {censored}ing those ones up with reverb and awful effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted November 26, 2008 Members Share Posted November 26, 2008 Could you do me a favor and listen to Shangri La or Out on the Weekend and tell me what you think? I did a better job not totally {censored}ing those ones up with reverb and awful effects. During the mellower parts of Shangi-La he's still a little breathy but when it picks up and he sings out he's fine. Trust me, he sings better than I do and I've been the lead singer of a band for a decade. In my case, though, I have 2 crutches-- first, it's punk rock, so my audience has lowered expectations for vocals, and second, we rarely do covers (and when we do we change them quite a bit), so the audience has no preconceived notions of what the vocals are supposed to sound like. You'll do fine live, though he'll have to concentrate on singing out if you're playing with live drums, unless you've got a band who can play quietly, or, conversely, a great PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted November 26, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2008 I've heard him sing before "out" without a microphone... joking around in the car... and since he's singing louder do you think that's a more natural place for his voice? It sounds like a bit smoother and more baritone. He sounds a bit like David Bowie or Morrissey. He sounds a lot older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted November 27, 2008 Members Share Posted November 27, 2008 I've heard him sing before "out" without a microphone... joking around in the car... and since he's singing louder do you think that's a more natural place for his voice? It sounds like a bit smoother and more baritone. He sounds a bit like David Bowie or Morrissey. He sounds a lot older. It'd be my guess that that "out" singing voice is more natural for him, and may end up what he works out to doing. That's how it worked for me, I have a lousy voice/range but it's worse when I don't sing out. I'm the last person to give advice really, self-taught and just going on experience, fwiw. Ymmv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted November 27, 2008 Members Share Posted November 27, 2008 By the way, does your boyfriend know you're doing this? Why are we working through an interpreter? What does he think about his voice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted November 27, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 27, 2008 he doesn't know but I don't think he'd care. They're my songs too. He's shy about his voice maybe even dislikes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted December 4, 2008 Moderators Share Posted December 4, 2008 He sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted December 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 Woo! We keep meaning to record more stuff but the house is never empty for long enough. he wont sing when other people are around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 Woo! We keep meaning to record more stuff but the house is never empty for long enough. he wont sing when other people are around I'm seeing a potential problem for future live performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted December 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Yeah seriously. I think it's just because my brothers are assholes and it's just noisy. Also did I mention they're assholes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted December 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 19, 2008 http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7161392 I tried to take some of your advise. He sang louder/more outward, and I moved the guitar back and the vocals forward a bit and miced things a bit differently. Any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted December 19, 2008 Members Share Posted December 19, 2008 That's good! I think his voice is well suited to this material and the recording itself is well done. Please pass along my compliments to your BF. He should be out performing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members freetime Posted December 19, 2008 Members Share Posted December 19, 2008 you got any pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members karma279 Posted December 19, 2008 Members Share Posted December 19, 2008 I only listened to the first one... way too much effect on the vocals. You can't tell if he can actually sing or not. There are also timing issues that I'd get down before I played open mic somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted December 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 19, 2008 I only listened to the first one... way too much effect on the vocals. You can't tell if he can actually sing or not. There are also timing issues that I'd get down before I played open mic somewhere. If you listen to the last one I just posted the other day that one has only a tiny light bit of reverb on it and nothing else. Also if you're going to listen to the ones I posted in the OP listen to the ones posted last. Blue Moon and So Real are probably the best ones as far as his voice goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aliensexist112 Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 he sound's really nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members omg_otters Posted December 25, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 25, 2008 thanks mang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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