Members J.Paul Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 So we're learning "Frankestein".There's a wrong note on the guitar at 2:57(The harmonized ascending line w/ the sax just before the unison riff)It should be an F and instead it's an F#. Do I fix it or play it like it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chicken Monkey Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Wow. Do you go through the whole skin bleaching thing, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted April 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Wow. Do you go through the whole skin bleaching thing, too? hahano but I might play it cross eyed if I can get it close enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassred Posted April 18, 2009 Members Share Posted April 18, 2009 Depends, if it doesn't REALLY sound out, keep it. if it's going to bother you, play the "right" note I play a few "Fun" notes on some Allman stuff. bass is not exactly with guitars/not really doing harmony... It's the jazz influence, yeah, that's the ticket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nijyo Posted April 19, 2009 Members Share Posted April 19, 2009 So we're learning "Frankestein". There's a wrong note on the guitar at 2:57 (The harmonized ascending line w/ the sax just before the unison riff) It should be an F and instead it's an F#. Do I fix it or play it like it is? Audience won't notice, most likely. So, get down with your bad self... and flip a coin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kramerguy Posted April 19, 2009 Members Share Posted April 19, 2009 I admit, I haven't listened to that song in ages.. but do you think it's possible that the flub was intentional to create a specific dissonance, just on that one line of the progression, where as they would have intentionally not done that on the other instances of the progression in the song? Maybe it's me.. but the stoners of the 60's and 70's did a lot of crazy {censored} with the music and some of it was so subtle that people probably still haven't noticed, unless they were stoned, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cooterbrown Posted April 19, 2009 Members Share Posted April 19, 2009 So we're learning "Frankestein".There's a wrong note on the guitar at 2:57(The harmonized ascending line w/ the sax just before the unison riff)It should be an F and instead it's an F#.Do I fix it or play it like it is? It's at 1:47 - don't know where you got 2:57 from. :poke:Sounds to me like the dissonance may have been intentional.When my old rock band played it, the guitarist played an F, though.It sounded better to both of us, although your talking about an event that lasts a quarter of a second, that nobody is going to notice, but you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted April 19, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 19, 2009 that's interesting,so he opted to play the F too. yeah it kinda bugs me so I went ahead and memorized the F / Dm for now It's at 1:47 - don't know where you got 2:57 from. :poke:Sounds to me like the dissonance may have been intentional.When my old rock band played it, the guitarist played an F, though.It sounded better to both of us, although your talking about an event that lasts a quarter of a second, that nobody is going to notice, but you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevilRaysFan Posted April 19, 2009 Members Share Posted April 19, 2009 Relax. The cover-song Police will not be in the audience. (Although I can think of a few bands in myarea that should get Assault charges) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chicken Monkey Posted April 19, 2009 Members Share Posted April 19, 2009 I really can't imagine why it's that important, but if you feel strongly about it, I'd look up some live versions. If they play the harmonically correct note live, then that's probably the way it was "written". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rowka Posted April 21, 2009 Members Share Posted April 21, 2009 Pretty damn presumptuous to assume it's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nijyo Posted April 21, 2009 Members Share Posted April 21, 2009 Pretty damn presumptuous to assume it's wrong. I dunno, "mistakes" get left in pro recordings more often than you might think. I heard two this morning, as a matter of fact. In Metallica's "Blackened" after the solo there's a bridge where Lars gets slightly behind the beat (or, more likely, everyone gets slightly ahead of the beat) for a couple measures and then it resyncs up again for the rest of the bridge. It's really obvious once you notice it, but since the band was rarely in the studio at the same time during the recording of "And Justice..." they apparently just left it. Also, in the intro of "Don't Cry" by G'n'R Slash partially misfrets a string (only really in a way that a player would notice) and they chose (apparently) to keep it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted April 22, 2009 Members Share Posted April 22, 2009 There's a huge mistake at the end of The Police's "De Do Do Do" - during the last chorus just before the end of the song, listen very closely to the guitar part. It's pretty hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stomias Posted April 22, 2009 Members Share Posted April 22, 2009 So we're learning "Frankestein".There's a wrong note on the guitar at 2:57(The harmonized ascending line w/ the sax just before the unison riff)It should be an F and instead it's an F#.Do I fix it or play it like it is? Certainly not the easiest song.....I've done it and took quite a while for me to learn. I'd sure like to hear how you deal with it....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevilRaysFan Posted April 22, 2009 Members Share Posted April 22, 2009 There's a huge mistake at the end of The Police's "De Do Do Do" - during the last chorus just before the end of the song, listen very closely to the guitar part. It's pretty hilarious. Theres one bass note wrong on Journey's "Dont Stop Believing" during the first bridge. Its hard to catch. Maybe a bad punch, but its there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.Paul Posted April 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 22, 2009 Yeah that's the point of the thread actually....Who am I to say that the legends of rock were wrong, other than it being wrong in theory. Pretty damn presumptuous to assume it's wrong. BTW ChickenMonkey I did check out two live versions (one w/ Derringer and one w/ another guy) and both of them played the theoretically correct F / dm, which leads me to believe that the recording does indeed have a mistake on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nijyo Posted April 22, 2009 Members Share Posted April 22, 2009 I did check out two live versions (one w/ Derringer and one w/ another guy) and both of them played the theoretically correct F / dm, which leads me to believe that the recording does indeed have a mistake on it. Recording is expensive (is less so now, I guess, but still!)! If it takes us 3 days to figure out if it was a mistake or not, I can see why they'd leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted April 23, 2009 Members Share Posted April 23, 2009 Theres one bass note wrong on Journey's "Dont Stop Believing" during the first bridge. Its hard to catch. Maybe a bad punch, but its there Crazy. I'm gonna go listen for it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cooterbrown Posted April 23, 2009 Members Share Posted April 23, 2009 Theres one bass note wrong on Journey's "Dont Stop Believing" during the first bridge. Its hard to catch. Maybe a bad punch, but its there What bridge? "DSB" is just verses and choruses, along with an outro. Post the time mark, instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chevybusa Posted April 23, 2009 Members Share Posted April 23, 2009 This is the only version I'm familiar with, don't know if it will help at all, but nonetheless it's rockin'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members callous Posted April 23, 2009 Members Share Posted April 23, 2009 It's rock 'n roll, there is no "right" and "wrong." Play what you feel. I'd purposely change it around, anyway--freshen it up for modern times. ------------------- Back in the day, before computers and digital recording, "mistakes" often were left in. You can hear minor flubs in many major recordings, even huge hit songs. Doesn't bother me, as that indicates it's human. Indeed, some of this modern, overly produced music sounds sterile, it's too perfect. Autotune, yech, don't even get me started... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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