Feedback: Tone

[6StringSling]

I'm adding Blue Sky (The Allman Brother band) to my set list. The first thing I want to do is lock in the tone for the solo. I haven't played it about 20 years so I don't really care if anyone thinks the playing is sloppy or the phrasing is off - all I'm really looking for is feedback on the tone, specifically if you think there's too much distortion.

 

As per usual, I'll be playing through my PodXT Live straight into a PA. I'll be using my Delta DLE Gold with a DiMarzio Fred in the bridge and a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck. The bridge tone knob is set at 3 and the neck at 10 with the PU selector set to use both.

 

In order to get the most accurate representation of the tone, I recorded dry via a tube preamp with no drive and applied my tone via PodFarm.

 

Personally, I think I have just a touch too much distortion. I'm using the Brit J-800 model with the drive set at 57%. I tried 37%-47% (for some mentally unbalanced reason I almost always use odd numbers for my settings!) and I liked the tone better but I couldn't get it to sing and hammer-ons and pull-offs didn't articulate very well.

 

Here is a link to the first third or so of the solo that contains almost every high and low note that would be utilized:

http://www.tachyonburst.com/music/mp3/demos/tonetest.mp3

[mstreck]

Just my amateur opinion, but I'd prefer something warmer on a recording. Might be good for live use, though.

 

My POD settings for live use are totally different than what I'd ever put on a recording. I have to have a lot more mids and a little more high-end on stage.

[GCDEF]

In the ballpark, but I agree too much distortion. I'd add a little reverb too.

[dk123123dk]

I'm not familiar with the amp models in the pod, but I'm assuming this patch is based on the JCM800? If the POD can do an earlier Marshall amp, aka SuperLead, this might help you with the tone.

 

But its pretty close now.

 

 

dk

[6StringSling]

 

If the POD can do an earlier Marshall amp, aka SuperLead, this might help you with the tone.

 

 

Here's a tone using the SuperLead model:

 

http://www.tachyonburst.com/music/mp3/demos/tonetest2.mp3

 

I'm liking this better although it still needs some tweaking.

[goosefartfan]

the Superlead is much better. Close enough for rock and roll! Don't know why, but the first sample seems too 2 dimensional. Sorry for the cork sniffer language.

[Austincowbell]

second one is a lot better... have you thought about throwing a chorus on the beginning to mimic the dual guitar sound on the original?

[RupertB]

Yes, SL /second clip is much better & very close to the tone of the main solo break. I'd go for something a little cleaner for the intro/end & fills during the rest of the song.

[rhat]

Second one was a better setting,,, you also did a better job of playing it with less over bends. the original lead is a tough act to follow. So much of tone is technique, its really hard to just isolate electronic tone.

[crowguitar]

Keep in Mind, there's not a lot of gain on the original recorded version's tracks, plus you need to just pull the mids or lows back a hair. Needs more clarity and less "woomph" (if u can understand what I mean by that).

 

Otherwise, its pretty damn close and good job on the playing.

[MartinC]

Is the short harmony part part of the backing track? It's tone seems a bit better, warmer. I'd try more for that.

[6StringSling]

 

Is the short harmony part part of the backing track? It's tone seems a bit better, warmer. I'd try more for that.

 

Yes it is and I'm working towards that.

[TrickyBoy]

Allow me to preface my comments with I'm completely unfamiliar with this song (truthfully, I can't name an Allman Brothers song)

 

Being blunt, I hate the tone in the first one (to buzzy) but the second is much better. My main thing, even with the second one, is that I'd add a bit of reverb. I just find that when you go direct, the notes end so abruptly. When micing an amp, there's that room echo that give it just a little fade which is more pleasing to my ear. Live this may be a non issue of course.

[6StringSling]

 

My main thing, even with the second one, is that I'd add a bit of reverb. I just find that when you go direct, the notes end so abruptly.

 

There is reverb - even more than I normally use. Standard spring model mixed at 31%. You definitely hear it when the backing track isn't on. The notes might sound as if they're being cut off because I have a noise gate turned on.