Members Boganova Posted August 2, 2007 Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 Ok you guys will all be sick of me by now Im sure. Ive been on here for th last few weeks asking annoying noob questions and I think I have an idea that could stop my problems and your hairloss Ok so my problem is, Im in two bands, one death metal and the other metalcore/melodic death and both bands have quite different tones. Im constantly messing with my tone trying to get something im happy with, only to have to start again at the next band practice with the other band SO heres my current set up guitar--> wah-->od pedal clean boost--> Marshal Tsl 100 and heres my plan. guitar-> wah->cleanboost-> amp preamp-> G major-> EQ unit-> amps power amp now the question is, is it possible to get a chord so I can hook my amp up to a midi floor board that I will be using for the G major to change its channels? plus, with the eg unit, ive seen those stereo rack eqs that have two sets of EQ and I was wondering is it possible to have it so that your entire signal runs through one side, then you switch it over to the other, so i can have one set of EQ for each band? or would it just be easier to get two eq pedals? Also, would a BB sonic enhancer make a big difference? thanks heaps for your help aye guys. DO you think this will work? i basicly only want a midi floor pedal that changes everything for me(except wah of course) plus i want it to be easy to change my tones, using eq set ups and the two od channels on my amp, instead of always messing with my knobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tats_dragon Posted August 2, 2007 Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 There are several MIDI footcontrollers with relays but the Gmajor already has two relays built in to change channels on your amp. Doesn't eh Gmajor have a eq? Jun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Boganova Posted August 2, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2007 Has a three band yeah, i was gonna get a parametric(opps i mean graphic), so i can really get that tone to a place where Im happy with it. Im one of those guys thats always tweaking and never happy so hte more the merrier id say Was eyeing up a dual 15 band jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Boganova Posted August 5, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 5, 2007 Anyone else? Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starsnuffer Posted August 5, 2007 Members Share Posted August 5, 2007 The g-major has a parametric EQ, which is far more versatile then a graphic EQ. You can get switchers to do what you need, a GRX4 would probably be the cheapest, but like I said, it's better to just use the g-majors EQ, it's better then any cheesy graphic EQ. -W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 5, 2007 Members Share Posted August 5, 2007 Ok you guys will all be sick of me by now Im sure. Ive been on here for th last few weeks asking annoying noob questions and I think I have an idea that could stop my problems and your hairloss Ok so my problem is, Im in two bands, one death metal and the other metalcore/melodic death and both bands have quite different tones. Im constantly messing with my tone trying to get something im happy with, only to have to start again at the next band practice with the other band SO heres my current set up guitar--> wah-->od pedal clean boost--> Marshal Tsl 100 and heres my plan. guitar-> wah->cleanboost-> amp preamp-> G major-> EQ unit-> amps power amp now the question is, is it possible to get a chord so I can hook my amp up to a midi floor board that I will be using for the G major to change its channels? plus, with the eg unit, ive seen those stereo rack eqs that have two sets of EQ and I was wondering is it possible to have it so that your entire signal runs through one side, then you switch it over to the other, so i can have one set of EQ for each band? or would it just be easier to get two eq pedals? Also, would a BB sonic enhancer make a big difference? thanks heaps for your help aye guys. DO you think this will work? i basicly only want a midi floor pedal that changes everything for me(except wah of course) plus i want it to be easy to change my tones, using eq set ups and the two od channels on my amp, instead of always messing with my knobs The challenge for you is that, the TSL does NOT have a 1/4" jack for the footswitch jack. It's a 5 or 7 pin (I can't remember) DIN connector, so the relays on the G-Major won't help you. You'd need to use an RJM Amp Gizmo. http://www.rjmmusic.com/ampgizmo.php Forget the BBE, it will make a big difference toward making your heavy tone, skinny. For EQ, check this out: http://www.tcelectronic.com/TC1128 The TC 1128 is a digitally controlled analog 28-band high-performance graphical equalizer. Due to an ultimate no compromise design in the analog filters, and a unique digital control surface enabling e.g. Store and Recall of settings, the TC 1128 has been an industry standard for years, and is still unchallenged in performance. Mono 28 band graphic EQ with +/- 12dB range, various analyzer options, store/recall of settings and connection to TC 6032 remote-head, turns the TC 1128 into a flexible EQ solution for Live and installation applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UVguy Posted August 5, 2007 Members Share Posted August 5, 2007 Can a gmajor switch 3 channel amps with 1/4" connections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 5, 2007 Members Share Posted August 5, 2007 Can a gmajor switch 3 channel amps with 1/4" connections? No, because it's a simple open/close latching switch jack, and most 3+ channel amps have a DIN connector for their footswitch jack, NOT 1/4". UNLESS the amp has MIDI, which the TSL does not, the G-Major will be able to switch from channel A to Channel B and that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boogieman_dan Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 Can a gmajor switch 3 channel amps with 1/4" connections? That would depend on the amp. My Rocktron Replifex (very similar to the G-major) will switch between all 3 channels on my MKIII with a TRS to dual mono cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members starsnuffer Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 You'll have to build or buy a special cable for the TSL, similiar to the medusa cable for a bogner XTC, this will allow the g-major or similiar to switch the TSL. It is a latching switch setup, but you'll need to break it out. The amp gizmo is very cool though, I have one myself and can't recommend it enough. I just wanted to point out that there are other optoins. -W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Boganova Posted August 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 So if i get a special cable made, I can use the g major to switch channels? i wont need the other two options, as the g major will do those, just need to switch channels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tats_dragon Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 No, because it's a simple open/close latching switch jack, and most 3+ channel amps have a DIN connector for their footswitch jack, NOT 1/4". UNLESS the amp has MIDI, which the TSL does not, the G-Major will be able to switch from channel A to Channel B and that's it. DIN connector doesn't automatically mean the footswitch is momentary. It's just for convenience and a space saving measure.TWO relays will definitely control THREE functions on an amp that uses latching switches. Jun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tats_dragon Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 So if i get a special cable made, I can use the g major to switch channels? i wont need the other two options, as the g major will do those, just need to switch channels You just need a footswitch schematic to see which pins are used for the channel switching. Jun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Boganova Posted August 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 Yeah thanks i found it after alot of digging around. seems to me like it will do the trick. it cant switch the reverb on and off. what a shame I will have to use the one in the unit So, you all think I should use the EQ in the G major and not buy a seperate one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tats_dragon Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 I would try the G major EQ first since it's programmable. Completely on the other spectrum from the TC1128 if you need to tweak mid song is the Symetrix SX402, which is a decent 3 band parametric ($40-$50). http://cgi.ebay.com/2-SYMETRIX-SX-201-PARAMETRIC-EQ-PREAMPLIFIER-RACK_W0QQitemZ330150662254QQihZ014QQcategoryZ21166QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem You're gonna need a footcontroller? The two Behringer FCB1010 relays can be set to momentary or latching. Jun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 DIN connector doesn't automatically mean the footswitch is momentary. It's just for convenience and a space saving measure. TWO relays will definitely control THREE functions on an amp that uses latching switches. Jun I stand corrected. I didn't realize that the relay jacks were TRS. After now having reading the G-Major manual, I'm sure the OP will have no problem getting the schematic for the TSL and making himself a custom cable. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UVguy Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 So does that mean it might work? We are talking about a Peavey Ultra Plus. Just need to know if the gmajor will work or if I will have to go to an Axxess box or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted August 6, 2007 Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 So does that mean it might work? We are talking about a Peavey Ultra Plus. Just need to know if the gmajor will work or if I will have to go to an Axxess box or something. Possibly... Depends on you being able to get a schematic for the Peavey's footswitch jack configuration, and making a custom cable to go to the G-Major and the Peavey. Page 20 of the G-Major manual says: Depending on complexity of the channel switching system on your guitar amp you may need to contact the manufacturer of your guitar amp and/or a technician to get soldering advice for optimal channel switching setup. At www.tcelectronic.com, support section, we have placed various channel switching schematics for some of the most common amplifiers on the market. Try there first! Let us assume you have hooked the G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Boganova Posted August 6, 2007 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2007 Yeah I was gonna grab the behringer foot switch. Thanks heaps guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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