Members UMT Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 I've had cables in the past where when you unscrewed the barrel of the 1/4 plug, there was a drop of silicone between the pos/neg posts.. Putting together some heavy PA cable onto large barrel 1/4 plug and wondering if there is even a chance of a spark occuring between the pos/neg posts??? Silicone between the posts not a bad idea? Or is it a waste of time and rubber? Ha. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 That depends. What's the strain relief of the connector like? What make and model number of "large barrel 1/4" plugs" are you fixin to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members elsongs Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 My cables are REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UMT Posted January 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 It's 12 gauge cable. I can't tell you the make of the plug as I pulled the plug off one end and used a banana plug on it so I'm just putting the original 1/4 plug back on. It has VERY heavy duty posts on it and no strain relief unless I decided to shrink rap it. I'm still wondering if putting rubber silicone between the posts is a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UMT Posted January 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 My cables are REAL! What's the difference between 'real' and 'unreal cable?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 you probably should not use 1/4 ends on 12 gauge cable. i dont want to flare up an ongoing argument, but will say there at least to reasons not two do this. 1. the cable becomes to heavy with the extra big jack and extra heavy cable. too much strain on a flimsy designed jack/receiver. 2. if you need 12 gauge cable, your power requirements likely exceed the capacity for a 1/4 end. you should convert to speakon, really you should. this has been argued to the point of bans around here in the past, lets not go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UMT Posted January 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 you probably should not use 1/4 ends on 12 gauge cable. i dont want to flare up an ongoing argument, but will say there at least to reasons not two do this.1. the cable becomes to heavy with the extra big jack and extra heavy cable. too much strain on a flimsy designed jack/receiver.2. if you need 12 gauge cable, your power requirements likely exceed the capacity for a 1/4 end.you should convert to speakon, really you should.this has been argued to the point of bans around here in the past, lets not go there. Sorry, had no idea! I just wondered if the silicone was an effective form of protection... I freely admit that this is one of my favorite forums, but I don't read every post and haven't been around that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 if you want to convert to speakon we can get you there. its not terribly hard. what speakers/amps are you using? i've never seen silicon in a 1/4 jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 Never. Ever. A properly assembles cable out of the proper components and with proper workmenship does not need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Telecruiser Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 1/4" plugs for speakers = FAIL. Think Speakon. Also, no silicon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UMT Posted January 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 if you want to convert to speakon we can get you there. its not terribly hard.what speakers/amps are you using?i've never seen silicon in a 1/4 jack. I've also installed SpeakOns, no big deal. And you're right, at some point they'll all be converted. I had a quality cable that I pulled the head off one time and there was a bead of silicon between the pos/neg lugs. I thought: this is kinda cool... Extra protection between the pos/neg lugs. My question is, does this work? Make sense? I seriously didn't mean for this to get into a in depth discussion that has already been discussed, and apparently has some strong feelings about. Is there any advantage at all between placing a bead of silicone between the pos/neg lugs? Kinda like wrapping them with shrink tube or even electrical tape? Does it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UMT Posted January 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 Sorry, but there has been a couple replies while I was typing my last post... I hear you, guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 i think it would be just a stop gap for a lousy build. not good practice. i didnt mean to scare you, sorry bout that. dont worry about it. its an old argument and perhaps the main combatants have met the ban hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UMT Posted January 1, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 By the way, this is the first New Years that I haven't played in a long time. No sweat, I'm digging it but I freely admit to have all sorts of libations but I seriously admire and appreciate the comments from you guys on this forum... Thanks a bunch and I wish you all a Happy New Year! UMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheDoctorMo Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 What's the difference between 'real' and 'unreal cable?' It was a word play on using silicon for fake boobies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted January 1, 2011 Members Share Posted January 1, 2011 Is there any advantage at all between placing a bead of silicone between the pos/neg lugs? Kinda like wrapping them with shrink tube or even electrical tape? Does it work? Andy (agedhorse) offered the correct answer. Let me rephrase Andy's answer: If the cord end or assembly methods needs silicone to assist in guarding against malfunction, then either the cord ends themselves are not to be trusted and/or the assembly method is not to be trusted. Addition of the silicon would basically be the same as keeping a rabbits foot in your pocket for good luck. If it makes you feel good to do it, there's probably no harm, but there's probably no real benefit either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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