Members mbfrancis Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 You're in a different world DAW-wise, than me. I've been using Cakewalk products all along except for about a year on Logic when Logic still ran on PCs. Eons ago, now. There were about three years on a Roland VS-1680 (which I still have in the closet). Trade you the 1680 for the Roland Stage Piano he he he. Are your synth parts all Reason? You have a good feel for synth stuff - I'd like to hear more. What's your master plan, musically? Not really assuming you have one, but if you do..... Appreciate you hanging in with the forum, just to say. nat whilk ii Sorry for the super-delayed response, Nat, was on vacation. I love Reason for the tweakability and the whole rack metaphor. I use it for everything, synths, samples, recording. If anything it's *too* tweakable...I often find myself messing around for hours playing the same major 7th chords over and over on different synth patches. Not productive. My master plan is lousy and needs work because I can't seem to release any music. Hoping to release a Port Streets record with my friend this year, debating doing an EP or finishing a couple more songs for a complete record. My challenge is I keep tweaking and never finishing stuff. Would love to make more money from writing songs. A number of the songs are quite close. What are you up to? Glad to be here, grateful for you guys, just wish I was more productive. Can anyone help walk me through releasing an EP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhino55 Posted August 19, 2015 Members Share Posted August 19, 2015 ... a Fauxbro. ... and how is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhino55 Posted August 20, 2015 Members Share Posted August 20, 2015 Not sure how much stock I put in this but neat non the less... From http://www.wmich.edu/mus-theo/courses/keys.html From Christian Schubart's Ideen zu einer Aesthetik der Tonkunst (1806) translated by Rita Steblin in A History of Key Characteristics in the 18th and Early 19th Centuries. UMI Research Press (1983). [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD]C major[/TD] [TD]Completely pure. Its character is: innocence, simplicity, naïvety, children's talk.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]C minor[/TD] [TD]Declaration of love and at the same time the lament of unhappy love. All languishing, longing, sighing of the love-sick soul lies in this key.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Db major[/TD] [TD]A leering key, degenerating into grief and rapture. It cannot laugh, but it can smile; it cannot howl, but it can at least grimace its crying.--Consequently only unusual characters and feelings can be brought out in this key.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]D major[/TD] [TD]The key of triumph, of Hallejuahs, of war-cries, of victory-rejoicing. Thus, the inviting symphonies, the marches, holiday songs and heaven-rejoicing choruses are set in this key.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]D minor[/TD] [TD]Melancholy womanliness, the spleen and humours brood.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]D# minor[/TD] [TD]Feelings of the anxiety of the soul's deepest distress, of brooding despair, of blackest depresssion, of the most gloomy condition of the soul. Every fear, every hesitation of the shuddering heart, breathes out of horrible D# minor. If ghosts could speak, their speech would approximate this key.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Eb major[/TD] [TD]The key of love, of devotion, of intimate conversation with God.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]E major[/TD] [TD]Noisy shouts of joy, laughing pleasure and not yet complete, full delight lies in E Major.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]F major[/TD] [TD]Complaisance & calm.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]F minor[/TD] [TD]Deep depression, funereal lament, groans of misery and longing for the grave.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]F# major[/TD] [TD]Triumph over difficulty, free sigh of relief utered when hurdles are surmounted; echo of a soul which has fiercely struggled and finally conquered lies in all uses of this key.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]F# minor[/TD] [TD]A gloomy key: it tugs at passion as a dog biting a dress. Resentment and discontent are its language.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]G major[/TD] [TD]Everything rustic, idyllic and lyrical, every calm and satisfied passion, every tender gratitude for true friendship and faithful love,--in a word every gentle and peaceful emotion of the heart is correctly expressed by this key.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]G minor[/TD] [TD]Discontent, uneasiness, worry about a failed scheme; bad-tempered gnashing of teeth; in a word: resentment and dislike.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ab major[/TD] [TD]Key of the grave. Death, grave, putrefaction, judgment, eternity lie in its radius.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ab minor[/TD] [TD]Grumbler, heart squeezed until it suffocates; wailing lament, difficult struggle; in a word, the color of this key is everything struggling with difficulty.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]A major[/TD] [TD]This key includes declarations of innocent love, satisfaction with one's state of affairs; hope of seeing one's beloved again when parting; youthful cheerfulness and trust in God.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]A minor[/TD] [TD]Pious womanliness and tenderness of character.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bb major[/TD] [TD]Cheerful love, clear conscience, hope aspiration for a better world.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bb minor[/TD] [TD]A quaint creature, often dressed in the garment of night. It is somewhat surly and very seldom takes on a pleasant countenance. Mocking God and the world; discontented with itself and with everything; preparation for suicide sounds in this key.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]B major[/TD] [TD]Strongly coloured, announcing wild passions, composed from the most glaring coulors. Anger, rage, jealousy, fury, despair and every burden of the heart lies in its sphere.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]B minor[/TD] [TD]This is as it were the key of patience, of calm awaiting ones's fate and of submission to divine dispensation.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbfrancis Posted August 20, 2015 Members Share Posted August 20, 2015 Not sure how much stock I put in this but neat non the less... From http://www.wmich.edu/mus-theo/courses/keys.html From Christian Schubart's Ideen zu einer Aesthetik der Tonkunst (1806) translated by Rita Steblin in A History of Key Characteristics in the 18th and Early 19th Centuries. UMI Research Press (1983). [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD]Db major[/TD] [TD]A leering key, degenerating into grief and rapture. It cannot laugh, but it can smile; it cannot howl, but it can at least grimace its crying.--Consequently only unusual characters and feelings can be brought out in this key.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Eb major[/TD] [TD]The key of love, of devotion, of intimate conversation with God.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]F minor[/TD] [TD]Deep depression, funereal lament, groans of misery and longing for the grave.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] So cool. Different keys definitely have different vibes. The ones above are my favorite keys, although that's not what Db Major sound like (leering!). True fact: "Friday I'm in Love" is in between D and Eb...so is that 'triumphant love'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 20, 2015 Glad to be here, grateful for you guys, just wish I was more productive. Can anyone help walk me through releasing an EP? In no particular order from 2 - 6. 1) Finish the songs 2) Sign up for something like CDBaby or Tunecore for distribution 3) Get artwork done 4) Develop bio material and such things 5) Scour the internet for blogs and such that you like so you can send your EP in for reviews 6) Don't skimp on mastering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbfrancis Posted August 20, 2015 Members Share Posted August 20, 2015 In no particular order from 2 - 6. 1) Finish the songs 2) Sign up for something like CDBaby or Tunecore for distribution 3) Get artwork done 4) Develop bio material and such things 5) Scour the internet for blogs and such that you like so you can send your EP in for reviews 6) Don't skimp on mastering Thanks, Justin, that helps actually -- thinking about getting someone to mix as well. Want someone who has done credible indie rock/so has modern aesthetic but not crazy credits. Really don't want to mix myself, and willing to invest in the right person or give points, etc. You guys have heard my boy/girl Ports Streets stuff, any similar modern indie bands with a similar vibe? Every person I research seems way too big,.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted August 21, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2015 What's your budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbfrancis Posted August 21, 2015 Members Share Posted August 21, 2015 What's your budget? I'd say $300-500 per track depending on the person. Plus something for mastering. I'll do fewer songs and pay more if I find someone into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhino55 Posted August 21, 2015 Members Share Posted August 21, 2015 $300-500 per track for mixing is a really healthy budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhino55 Posted August 21, 2015 Members Share Posted August 21, 2015 I know some folks who would be happy for the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbfrancis Posted August 21, 2015 Members Share Posted August 21, 2015 True, but for that they would have had to have done something I liked/respected, and have a proven modern indie aesthetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhino55 Posted August 21, 2015 Members Share Posted August 21, 2015 Liner notes are good for that sort of thing. It'll say mixed by So and So. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhino55 Posted August 24, 2015 Members Share Posted August 24, 2015 Two small tweaks and the mastering is done for Drowned Cicadas! Once I get the artwork, I'll post some of the tracks on soundcloud in anticipation of the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhino55 Posted August 24, 2015 Members Share Posted August 24, 2015 ...and, Martin, the guy that did most of the mixing would be willing to take on your project. The rate come out to ~$100 a track. I can pm you details if you're interested in connecting with him. My stuff obviously isn't really going for an indie rock aesthetic, but it's something. I'm sure he could provide examples of an indie rock aesthetic he has worked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 24, 2015 Two small tweaks and the mastering is done for Drowned Cicadas! Once I get the artwork, I'll post some of the tracks on soundcloud in anticipation of the release. Nice. Just sent off a single for mastering mixed and I'd say co-produced by Lee Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbfrancis Posted August 24, 2015 Members Share Posted August 24, 2015 ...and, Martin, the guy that did most of the mixing would be willing to take on your project. The rate come out to ~$100 a track. I can pm you details if you're interested in connecting with him. My stuff obviously isn't really going for an indie rock aesthetic, but it's something. I'm sure he could provide examples of an indie rock aesthetic he has worked on. Thanks Rhino yeah PM the details please. Would totally want want to hear work. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbfrancis Posted August 24, 2015 Members Share Posted August 24, 2015 Nice. Just sent off a single for mastering mixed and I'd say co-produced by Lee Knight. Very cool...what song is the single? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 24, 2015 It's a song called Blue Melody... which actually was the result of one of Stickboy's Challenges. The challenge was to pick a phrase from a book and write a song about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbfrancis Posted August 25, 2015 Members Share Posted August 25, 2015 Liner notes are good for that sort of thing. It'll say mixed by So and So. It's crazy though, every guy I've found who mixed something I liked has gone on to greater things, putting him out of my league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted August 25, 2015 Members Share Posted August 25, 2015 Martin you'd have to email for exact costs but abbey road do mixing and mastering. Mastering seems to start at £90 and mixing is dependant on what you need exactly. You can read about the mastering engineers there and see if they interest you. May be out of your budget but worth a look at their site http://www.abbeyroadonlinemixing.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhino55 Posted August 25, 2015 Members Share Posted August 25, 2015 Going off of the prices listed for mixing on Abbey Road's website for mixing ($860 per track for up to 24 multi-tracks), I'm assuming Sir George Martin is doing the mixing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbfrancis Posted August 25, 2015 Members Share Posted August 25, 2015 I love it - obscure indie rock guys are out of my price range but you're directing me to Abbey Road ha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted August 26, 2015 Members Share Posted August 26, 2015 Just get it done you skinflint haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbfrancis Posted August 26, 2015 Members Share Posted August 26, 2015 I think I'm going to email some guys way out of my league and just ask, maybe they'll dig the music. See what's out there. Maybe someone will love the tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted August 27, 2015 Members Share Posted August 27, 2015 Have a look at this site - some good ones on there http://www.jigsawmusicmgmt.com/matty-green-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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