Members cloudsnstuff00 Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Can someone explain a chord scale to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GreenAsJade Posted December 17, 2007 Members Share Posted December 17, 2007 If Am is the II chord of a chord scale you can play the following arpeggios over an Am chord:Am (ii) Am arpeggioCM7 (IV) CM7 arpeggioEm7 (vi) Em7 arpeggioF#m7flat5 (vii) F#m7flat5 arpeggioGM7 (I) GM7 arpeggioD7 (V) D7 arpeggioBm7 (iii) Bm7 arpeggio How did you come up with these choices? Just a couple of examples... I would have thought that if Am is the II, then G is the I, so why GM7 instead? I would have thought that GM7 would have gone with Am7 as II. I get these examples from the whole I II III IV V VI VIIM m m M D m m chord scale thing that I've learned about. I'm not saying that GM7 doesn't work over Am as II (it probably does), I just would like to understand the system that comes up with that (and the others). Thx, GaJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GreenAsJade Posted December 17, 2007 Members Share Posted December 17, 2007 Oh - a chords scale is what I just quoted. It works like this. Suppose you start with C Major Scale. The notes areC D E F G A B And the first chord of the C chord scale is C Major. It is 1 3 5. So that means C E G. The _next_ chord of the C chord scale starts with D. Then you use the same notes from C major scale to form it. That's D F A. Guess what... Dm. Then there's E G B .... guess what ... Em etc. You can see that if you play Em over C Major scale, you will be choosing notes from the scale, so it has a chance of sounding OK. And so on with all the notes from the C Maj Chord Scale. They "Harmonise" C major scale. Mark Wies talks about it here: http://premierguitarlessons.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=56&Itemid=28 That sequence turns out to be M m m M Dom m m for harmonizing the major scale. I thought this would be what gives the clue that GM7 works over Am, but it doesn't explain it! GaJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bustaplz Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 Gmajor 5-1-3 6th -5th string group ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... ......... .........10 .........14 .........10 ......... Butch I played those three notes, played a Gmaj open chord and then figured out a hendrix-style version of Star Spangled Banner. Thanks for a great post, for some reason it really clicked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bulevardi.be Posted April 1, 2008 Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 1. When arpeggiating over and Am chord, why do you chose GM7 for an arpeggio? How did you narrow it down from the infinite other chord possibilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bulevardi.be Posted April 4, 2008 Members Share Posted April 4, 2008 But like Blackwind says too, I don't know what chord I have to choose to arpeggiate, when I have a chord sequence for rhythm playing. Are there tables with scales etc?I want to know what chords I have to arpeggiate for the following chord sequence: Em, C, D, E. Can someone help? 1) How do I know in which key the chord progression is made?For chord progression: Em C D E It could be in C ... but it could be in lots of other keys. How do I detect it? 2) To which key I have to transpose it? I could transpose it to key G, but also to key E, or D or... Zillions of possibilities, but I don't have time to write them all down and figure out if they sound well if I play them over the other chord progression. Okay,I had much on this part: (use for roman numerals)http://lessons.mikedodge.com/lessons/MusicTheory/Diatonic/Dia8.htmand also this part: (toneslinger's one page theory)http://toneslinger.com/main/index.php?/Guitar-Theory/One-Page-Theory.html So if the key is in C with chord progression Em C D Eand you transpose it to the key of E, then the chord progression will be: G#m E F# G# ?if you transpose it to the key of G, it would be: Bm, G A B ? or did I get it wrong, reading the theory in the links above?Because... ... than this one, it confused me a lot: (basic chords from the key)http://lessons.mikedodge.com/lessons/MusicTheory/Diatonic/Dia5.htm So my C key chords would be C Dm Em F G Am Bmb5 C ... and my Em C D E won't fit in it with the minor chords... Can anyone help, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bulevardi.be Posted April 4, 2008 Members Share Posted April 4, 2008 So if you play a rhythm guitar with chords Em C D E, the arpeggio over this chord progression will be:(going out from the 'thought' that the first chord progression is in key C and the second is transposed to key E)So is this right? Or wrong? If wrong: why? And how to correct it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jawbreakerr Posted April 4, 2008 Members Share Posted April 4, 2008 Jimmy James thread got unsticky pwned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wein Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Jimmy James thread got unsticky pwned. It might have been "unstickied" since all of the material was included in the "Official Lesson Loft Lesson Thread" sticky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bulevardi.be Posted April 7, 2008 Members Share Posted April 7, 2008 Jimmy James thread got unsticky pwned.But I still haven't got an answer on my questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToneSlinger Posted April 8, 2008 Members Share Posted April 8, 2008 1) How do I know in which key the chord progression is made?For chord progression: Em C D E It could be in C ... but it could be in lots of other keys. How do I detect it?2) To which key I have to transpose it? I could transpose it to key G, but also to key E, or D or... Zillions of possibilities, but I don't have time to write them all down and figure out if they sound well if I play them over the other chord progression.Okay,I had much on this part: (use for roman numerals)http://lessons.mikedodge.com/lessons/MusicTheory/Diatonic/Dia8.htmand also this part: (toneslinger's one page theory)http://toneslinger.com/main/index.php?/Guitar-Theory/One-Page-Theory.htmlSo if the key is in C with chord progression Em C D Eand you transpose it to the key of E, then the chord progression will be: G#m E F# G# ?if you transpose it to the key of G, it would be: Bm, G A B ?or did I get it wrong, reading the theory in the links above?Because... ... than this one, it confused me a lot: (basic chords from the key)http://lessons.mikedodge.com/lessons/MusicTheory/Diatonic/Dia5.htmSo my C key chords would be C Dm Em F G Am Bmb5 C ... and my Em C D E won't fit in it with the minor chords...Can anyone help, please? bulevardi.be,Always remember... anytime you get confused go back to the musical alphabet and the major scale. Its called 2131... 2-whole steps, 1 half step, 3 - whole steps, 1 half step. What I have found is that we try to make it more complicated than it actually is. If you find yourself getting confused, no matter what you are trying to learn, ALWAYS back up and go back to those two basic things. You can pretty much sort out anything theory or playing wise with those two things. Check out this article, it will break it all down and the one page theory will make more sense. The Secret to Deciphering Anything Musical Everything builds on this. Sorry, the article isn't the greatest formatted piece on my site. It was one of the first I wrote. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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