Members pinkjimiphoton Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by Wilbo26 BTW, where did this "Would you do those jobs for that pay" talking point come from? Spin cycle activated. Below minimum wage workers are great for bottom lines, protect it at all costs. BUSTED...you {censored}er!lol....just pointing out that i sure as {censored} ain't gonna work pickin' fruit for 5 bux a week....would you?(i realize we're musicians here, so...)i think the whole concept is wrong....there should be a way that immigration be easier for those that truly want to come here, and that those willing to work can...but this back and forth bull{censored} needs to be stopped if for nothing but security reasons.conversly, we need to change laws as well that allow folks to stay just because they have a child here...while that child "MAY" be a citizen, that's a little far-fetched to me...at least supporting a whole family over it is. perhaps would be better to insist on proof of residence thru pregnancy??beats me bro,.....i should quit while i'm ahead here, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkjimiphoton Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by john l Question: do YOU want to do the kinda work these folks do for the PAY they do it for? case {censored}ing closed. Grow a brain. These jobs used to pay well, now they pay {censored} because theres five mexicans just waiting to do it for less then what its worth. Im a carpenter and thanks to cheap ass labor everyones wages are taking a dive. The only reason your not pissed is because it hasnt happened to you yet. Cant blame the employers there just doing whats economical for the company. Its the {censored}ing flood of people that are just exploiting America for everything they can get. grow THIS.point noted, dude...but tell ya what, there's a big diff between some lackeys picking fruits and some bastard that shouldn't even be here taking legit jobs.we don't see too many of them like that up here , at least not yet.i've done carpentry, up here it's still a decent gig...not great, but then we don't have gangs of folks willing to do it at 5 bux an hour or whatever, either.seems more of a reflection on the state of the nation now more than ever as this {censored} unfurls.best of luck in your situation dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaSkip Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Here is an interesting email I received yesterday. The following from a director with SW BELL in Mexico City. I spent five years working in Mexico. I worked under a tourist visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval. During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. Barbara's was the same except hers did not permit her to work. To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies) of my: 1. Birth certificates for Barbara and me. 2. Marriage certificate. 3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation. 4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation. 5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year. 6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indicating I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing." 7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on earth" letter. It was fun to write. All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right. Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours accompanied by a Mexican attorney touring Mexican government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location (and we remember at least four locations) we were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the government's actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Loredo Texas. This meant we rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid. We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law. We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back. We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about twenty legal size pages annually. The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees. Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs. It was a real adventure and If any of our senators or congressmen went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico. The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their White House or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican Military surround the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting. Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas. Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being hard on illegal immigrants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fernmeister Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by Lensrock I never said my school was far away at all man, in fact I said it was only 2 miles. I explained in an earlier post though, that I had finals today and that I had to leave extremely early to make it there on time. I'm in East Ukrainian Villiage and I go to UIC. So yeah. Eat it. I'm done with this post now. extremely early? 2 miles should take about half an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Speed_Racer71 Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 the new president for mexico is............. pinkjimiphoton back your bags dude you would be a shoe in for winner:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Speed_Racer71 Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 im tired of hearing about we are all immigrants and the native american {censored}...that was long before any of us were even born...the past... we are focusing on the "now" thats what this whole thing boils down to..not the way it "used" to be ..but how "it" is and how its "going" to be...period..we cant change the past, only the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soloman Grundy Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by Speed_Racer71 im tired of hearing about we are all immigrants and the native american {censored}...that was long before any of us were even born...the past... we are focusing on the "now" thats what this whole thing boils down to..not the way it "used" to be ..but how "it" is and how its "going" to be...period..we cant change the past, only the future. well in all seriousness, that "native american" {censored} wiped out an entire race of indigenous people and left them in some of the worst concentrated poverty in this country. they've never recovered and never will. this is their land. we literally killed most of them. the past is important because this whole LAW everyone seems so worried about all of a sudden is just the fact that we decided to take what we want and call it the LAW. if there were enough mexicans to take over and kill us all, that would be the law. I'm just glad I don't have to pick fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkjimiphoton Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by Speed_Racer71 the new president for mexico is.............pinkjimiphotonback your bags dude you would be a shoe in for winner:D if nominated i will not run, if elected i will not serve...but i WILL make them start growing all the killer weed you youngsters missed out on again...lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkjimiphoton Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by Soloman Grundy well in all seriousness, that "native american" {censored} wiped out an entire race of indigenous people and left them in some of the worst concentrated poverty in this country. they've never recovered and never will. this is their land. we literally killed most of them.the past is important because this whole LAW everyone seems so worried about all of a sudden is just the fact that we decided to take what we want and call it the LAW. if there were enough mexicans to take over and kill us all, that would be the law.I'm just glad I don't have to pick fruit. WORD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Speed_Racer71 Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by pinkjimiphoton if nominated i will not run, if elected i will not serve... but i WILL make them start growing all the killer weed you youngsters missed out on again...lol... LOL ...ive never smoked weed ..or even a cigarette..but now if you can get some Cuban cigars ill smoke those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Speed_Racer71 Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 i want to go on record that the statement i posted above about the native americans was wrong and i should not have said it.. Rock ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ouch1234 Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by MalcolmTex Connected with immigrants???!! Excuse me, I'm a home builder. I build 100 houses per year and I never, ever use illegal labor. Never, not once, and never will. I still make money. So much for them doing jobs that "Americans" won't do. That's BS. We tried amnesty 3 times in the past and here we are at the crossroads again. This time it's many more people. Citizenship should be earned and those who come here legally should be rewarded. I'm tired of seeing 20 living in a house, parking in the front yard, walking up and down my street drunk and mamasitas with a bun in the oven and two in a carriage. All on my tax money. Also, when people say that illegals pay taxes, they are wrong. Illegals pay SALES tax, like every other visitor to the US, that's it. exactly correct!!!unfortunately all the builders here use illegals and sure they make way more profit but personally i think its sad. The lanscaper company i hired had illegals and they took a dump in my garage.when the wife came home she puked her guts out and we fired their asses...whats real lame is they has a truck they could have gome to the gas station 1 block away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Speed_Racer71 Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 funny/true story several years ago i worked for GNC the vitamin store..our company shirts where red pullovers ..i went to walmart after work one day..now they wear blue pullovers..i had two hispanic males come up to me and they said "sir , cell phone not working" and kept repeating it in rather bad english..im like "huh"? i dont work here but they kept on and finally i had to point at the name stitched on my shirt..the funny part is im thinking to myself..they must think im a damn manger or high up or something since i have on a "red" shirt and not the blue one that all the other employees had on LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TeamoDave Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by Soloman Grundy I'm just glad I don't have to pick fruit. I can't even pick good fruit in the supermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fatfat Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by slingshotmb everybody calm down mexicans are good people. how dare you almost make me cut my own grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkjimiphoton Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by Speed_Racer71 LOL ...ive never smoked weed ..or even a cigarette..but now if you can get some Cuban cigars ill smoke those lol...sounds good to me!!bring the whiskey, bro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pinkjimiphoton Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by TeamoDave I can't even pick good fruit in the supermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lensrock Posted May 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by pinkjimiphoton if nominated i will not run, if elected i will not serve...but i WILL make them start growing all the killer weed you youngsters missed out on again...lol... I ain't missin out on any killer weed. I've got some of those crazy white, pillowy, fat-assed nuggets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members #16 Posted May 2, 2006 Members Share Posted May 2, 2006 Originally posted by Lensrock I hate this bull{censored}. Its going to take me an hour to get to school today, and I only live 2 miles away. {censored}ers shut the whole goddamn city down. I enjoyed the day without traffic!The roach coach is back though so, all is well!Can I say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Speed_Racer71 Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 this would be the worst thing i can think of if HR4337 go into effect i love me some taco bell...chilli cheese burrito, steak quasedillas, steck soft taco, pintos and cheese..oh fug ima havta make a run for the border..and then a run for the toilet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Speed_Racer71 Posted May 3, 2006 Members Share Posted May 3, 2006 honestly i really feel for the people that live in underprivileged countries...i thank the lord that i live in america...and i know when you are desparate to get the hell out you gotta do what you gotta do because you litterally live life one day at a time in places like that..so i dont know the solution ..if HR4337 was/is the only solution..i would have to back my government ,..right or wrong thats what i would have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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