Members EnemyofSilence Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 Can I tap a Seth lover? Dunno. Are they 4 lead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex D Posted February 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 In a semi hollow I think HBs really are recommended. I could imagine P90's being quite noisy and prone to feedback ala the Epi Casino problems people sometimes mention here. That said, I've never owned a single coil semi-hollow, so YMMV. Otherwise, P90's have tons more personality than HB's, imho. I'm totally in love with my personal P90 Hamer. ya, this is kind of why I was looking for a humbucker that even people who "hated" humbuckers kind of liked. The P-90 swap kind of worries for that exact reason, and that the p-90s that fit in humbucker slot are not really p-90s (p-100?). I really like single coils though, they just seem to make the amp tone shine. So rather then hearing the pick-ups tone, i get more of the guitar body and amp tone with a single IMHO Maybe it the whole "hum"bucking part, single coils just seem so alive to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leftystratman Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 my strat has a p-90 in bridge, and I love it. it's the fatness of HB yet retains the attack of SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex D Posted February 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 Dunno. Are they 4 lead? I don't think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YourHerodDGC Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 I don't mind the Fender humbuckers that are in like the Thinlines and the '72 deluxes. I foget what those are called split coil or something. And i don't mind the mini-humbuckers i've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members angus_old Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 I don't mind the Fender humbuckers that are in like the Thinlines and the '72 deluxes. I foget what those are called split coil or something. the official name is wide range. i kind of have a feeling their sound has more to do with the wide coil spacing than any particular property of the pickups. my 4 pickup teisco gets that same sound when both pickups are on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 I love em all, singles and humbucklers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roger Ng Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 If it's not zebra striped high output humbuckers into a Bogner with an Eventide Orville in the loop, I don't want to hear it. Single coils are for white country guys. I like a tone so heavy it palm-mutes itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 I love HBs, as long as they aren't the typical high output/high mids Super Distortion types. PAFs in the right guitar are AMAZING - dial back the volume control and you get really sweet P-90ish tones. I've only one HB equipped guitar right now and it has a WCR Fillmore in it. Incredible pickup - clear, articulate, loaded with rich harmonic content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted February 16, 2007 Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 HB's are marginal to me. Nice, comparitively low-output hb's like PAFs can be great in lower-gain/no pedal situations in front of a tube amp, especially higher-wattage ones like Twins that really respond to a nice, strong signal. Once you leave that realm and get higher-gain, I lose all interest completely. I think EMGs and the like are the tools of baby-killers - tone-deaf monsters with no nuance and disqusting amounts of squashy compression. The funny thing is, the more you do cliche shred techniques like sweep picking and tapping, the more you like this kind of crap because it makes your particular choice of acrobatics easier to achieve. Considering I pretty much ahhor that kind of playing outside of Eddie Van, who simply used a PAF anyway, this kind of gear falls into the same bin as Diezel amps and pointy-headstock Ibanez guitars and crap that I never want to touch. I couldn't agree more strongly. :phil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex D Posted February 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2007 I love HBs, as long as they aren't the typical high output/high mids Super Distortion types. PAFs in the right guitar are AMAZING - dial back the volume control and you get really sweet P-90ish tones.I've only one HB equipped guitar right now and it has a WCR Fillmore in it. Incredible pickup - clear, articulate, loaded with rich harmonic content. do those come as a matched set neck/bridge or is just a single hum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 do those come as a matched set neck/bridge or is just a single hum? Calibrated sets or singles, AFAIK. I got mine used though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lostandfoundpdx Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 i played nothing but HBs for a long time, but i am moving away from that into p90s, just becaue they still can kick out the same oomph, but offer more interesting clean tones. i'm not a hater, i'm just over it. i will never switch out my les paul, it will always be my HB guitar, it has a duncan 59 in the neck and a JB in the bridge, sweet sweet tonez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CicadaSilence Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 I don't like humbucker cleans. I play clean about 90% of the time, so there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sainty Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 here's both my guitars. Blue one is coil tapped. not sure I'd like anything hotter than a PAF, but I bet my guitar sounds fatter than yours!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members erksin Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 I don't like humbucker cleans. I play clean about 90% of the time, so there you go. I typically don't either - until I tried the WCR I'd all but given up on great cleans from a HB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phishmarisol Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 Weird...I play humbuckers through a Fender clean most of the time and I think it has great cleans. I'm not really a fan of single coils. Listen to "E Clean" and tell me if it is clean to you. Maybe we all have different definitions of clean. That clip is with an eternity with the gain set low, playing in the middle position. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=423953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phishmarisol Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 Anyone? Bueller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vigor&kandor Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 I don't mind the Fender humbuckers that are in like the Thinlines and the '72 deluxes. I foget what those are called split coil or something. The Reissue ones sound like {censored}....and are noisey.....and muddy. I love vintage style single's,a and vintage style PAFS. Low output all the way. I hate Texas special style overwound bull{censored} singles. I not mind really hot humbuckers if your using them for high gain stuf and still I prefer low output in this application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluehuricane Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 i love humbuckers... they're not ideal for most situations, but single coils simply can't do high gain metal type stuff as well as humbuckers can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoboPimp Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 if you think humbuckers have bad clean tones you're not only an idiot, you're also deaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex D Posted February 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 if you think humbuckers have bad clean tones you're not only an idiot, you're also deaf. I heard more mud come from humbuckers then single coils IMHO. True you can get great cleans from hum, they are "hum" buckers, but most single coils don't have the mud/mush factor nearly as much IMHO. So are their any low output P.A.F humbuckers that are coil splittable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uma Floresta Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 if you think humbuckers have bad clean tones you're not only an idiot, you're also deaf. I love humbucker tones you hear out of hollowbody guitar, especially clean jazz tones. But you can't play clean with high output humbuckers. It sounds like ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PFDarkside Posted February 17, 2007 Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 So are their any low output P.A.F humbuckers that are coil splittable? Yes, many but they don't sound that good. When you think that a typical PAF style will be in the 8k range (4k split) and a typical vintage Strat might come in around 7k, you can see the split bucker will usually sound thin with low output. It works in the neck for me, but in the bridge, why bother. On the other hand, a high output HB, something in the 12K+ range will sound "better" split, but still sounds wierd if it uses a ceramic magnet (which many high output HBs do to counteract the darkening of the tone with the higher turns) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex D Posted February 17, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2007 Yes, many but they don't sound that good. When you think that a typical PAF style will be in the 8k range (4k split) and a typical vintage Strat might come in around 7k, you can see the split bucker will usually sound thin with low output. It works in the neck for me, but in the bridge, why bother. On the other hand, a high output HB, something in the 12K+ range will sound "better" split, but still sounds wierd if it uses a ceramic magnet (which many high output HBs do to counteract the darkening of the tone with the higher turns) As in not soundeing good, do you mean more noise?So I may just go straight P.A.F, but my carvin gots coil taps so I may tap them anyway. I just don't care for the carvin pick-ups Is a seymor duncan JB high output? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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