Members Raskolnikovs axe Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 title says it all. I'm thinking maybe a Stereo Memory Man w/Hazarai. I don't need to duplicate all the features i get with the DD20 and DMM, but what I WOULD like is preset capability, some funky oscillation/pitchy UFO type capability, and overall good sound with lots of options. What else should I consider? what about the Nova delay or Timefactor? (Timefactor seems to be out of my price range though...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbone Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 Eat ramen for a month and get the Timefactor. However, it's almost necessary to get at least an expression pedal, and I recommend also getting one of BTBAM's tap tempos, they are kickass. The Timefactor. There is no rival. It is the best digital delay available, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Raskolnikovs axe Posted December 25, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 simply not an option - the reason i'm selling the DD20 and DMM to go to one delay is to free up some cash, so whatever I buy has to be cheaper than the sum of those two pedals used Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbone Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 might want to check out the diamond memory lane then, or possibly the nova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willyemerald Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 how much for teh DMM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members senor-penguin Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 Yeah, I would like to buy that DMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 title says it all... what I WOULD like is preset capability, some funky oscillation/pitchy UFO type capability, and overall good sound with lots of options. The SMMH has 7 presets, one for each Hazarai mode; but the oscillations on the DMM are pretty unique to that box. You won't get that with the SMMH. Maybe you can try to sell the DMM for $200 and then buy a fixer-upper DMM for about $100. Then you can have the best of both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JorisBlack Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 The SMMH has 7 presets, one for each Hazarai mode; but the oscillations on the DMM are pretty unique to that box. You won't get that with the SMMH. Maybe you can try to sell the DMM for $200 and then buy a fixer-upper DMM for about $100. Then you can have the best of both the SMMH can't oscillate? (or can it, but not an identical oscillation of a DMM?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 If you rely or use any oscillation then the SMMH is not for you. It doesnt do a great job of it and sounds totally different then the real deal DMM. For that reason alone i would not part with my DMM. The SMMH is also not a very useful looper for live purposes. I use my Headrush and EHX 2880. It is however a great delay pedal with a batch of other cool features and it sounds great. It has a wonderful reverb tone to it. I like it alot with my rig. Since you are used to the dd20 and DMM i would recommend either the Nova or the diamond. The nova should have all the preset magic you could need as well as fine fidelity. I know the diamond doent have any presets but it sounds pretty close to the DMM, it oscillates beautifully, and it has tap tempo. I bet you could get a new one just for the price of the DMM, assuming its in good shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Raskolnikovs axe Posted December 25, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 the only thing that steers me away from the diamond is the price and the lack of dotted-eighth settings. i know you can tap it in if you count it out, but that's hard to do while singing the thing that attracts me to the SMM/H is that even though it probably wont' oscillate like the DMM, it seems to have a lot of weird personality to it. I rarely use the oscillation in the DMM and i don't really need it - sometimes I just need some weird noises, and my impression from reading these forums is that there's plenty of weird noises in the SMM/H, though i have yet to play one. otherwise i'd just keep the DD20 because it covers all my bases except the weird factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 25, 2007 Members Share Posted December 25, 2007 the SMMH can't oscillate? (or can it, but not an identical oscillation of a DMM?) The self oscillations on the SMMH are weak compared to the DMM. Here's a soundclip I just made using the SMMH for oscillation effects:http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=750566&songID=6105367 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Raskolnikovs axe Posted December 26, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 is that as extreme as it can get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members comfortablynumb Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 Echo Park + DE7. The Echo Park for all the main delay needs and then the DE7 for oscillation (sounds really good). Kind of goes against having one delay but it's way cheaper than the DD20 and DMM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 is that as extreme as it can get?That's the best I can get, but maybe I don't know the magic settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Raskolnikovs axe Posted December 26, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 i guess what's important to me is, if you rapidly change the delay time knob, do you get a dramatic pitch shift effect like the DMM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 i guess what's important to me is, if you rapidly change the delay time knob, do you get a dramatic pitch shift effect like the DMM? No. In fact, moving the delay knob cancels out the signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Collapse Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 i guess what's important to me is, if you rapidly change the delay time knob, do you get a dramatic pitch shift effect like the DMM? The DD-5/DD-6 will do that. ({censored} you, I think they sound great.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members six acre lake Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 The DD-5/DD-6 will do that.({censored} you, I think they sound great.) No {censored} You...I agree. The SMMH is not all that special...sure it gets some wackadoo sounds and some simple regular sounds...its just not as tweakable on the fly like most other EHX pedals...It still sounds good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cactuscool3r Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 Get a used Boss DD-3. It can sound awesome after a bit of tweaking. And seriously, no one will be able to tell the difference when you're playing live (not even you). Unless of course, you're using modulated delay, and for that you can get a cheap chorus pedal and run it after the DD-3. Both of them won't take up as much space as either one of the pedals they're replacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Collapse Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 Get a used Boss DD-3. It can sound awesome after a bit of tweaking. And seriously, no one will be able to tell the difference when you're playing live (not even you). Unless of course, you're using modulated delay, and for that you can get a cheap chorus pedal and run it after the DD-3. Both of them won't take up as much space as either one of the pedals they're replacing. That reminds me, you could try this: Get out your DD-20. Get a modulation pedal of your choice. Guitar -> DD-20 input B Run a cable from output B -> Mod pedal input Mod pedal output -> DD-20 input A And then run a lead from output A into your amp. It's basically a ghetto effects loop that will modulate your repeats using whatever pedal you want.There are other routings that will work, but if I remember right that one works best. I don't have my stuff with me right now or I'd go check it out, but it's definitely something to experiment with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members maxmitchell Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 I'd recommend the Nova... extremely flexible delay with nine presets. I use mine in addition to my DD-20 -- though I'm kind of emotionally attached to the DD-20, I'm starting to like the Nova better. It has a killer sound and it's so tweakable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 Eat ramen for a month and get the Timefactor. However, it's almost necessary to get at least an expression pedal, and I recommend also getting one of BTBAM's tap tempos, they are kickass. The Timefactor. There is no rival. It is the best digital delay "pedal" available, that meets your criteria. FIXED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 26, 2007 Members Share Posted December 26, 2007 FIXED http://www.eventide.com/I just listened to the demo for the first time. I really like the ModDelay using the expression pedal. Cool box! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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