Members loosegroove Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 So after doing some research, I've come to find that the RC-2 uses normally closed momentary switches, not the more widely available normally open variety. After looking around, the only inexpensive ones that I can find that seem any good (all the other ones are those mini types which don't look to reliable) are these DPDT momentary switch from effects connection: http://www.effectsconnection.com/oscommerce/product_info.php?products_id=489 Now I totally understand what to do with SPST switches since there are only 2 lugs, but what do I do with these 6 lugs? Also, how would I wire it up if I decided to go with two footswitches using a stereo jack? Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rogueweez Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Welcome to my world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chakosh Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Now I totally understand what to do with SPST switches since there are only 2 lugs, but what do I do with these 6 lugs? Also, how would I wire it up if I decided to go with two footswitches using a stereo jack? Thanks for the help! Very carefully. You must first send me your SSN and a credit card. Wire it like the SPST switch. Use your meter to figure out which side is on the "normally closed" side. Wire the tip to the common (middle) lug, and the ground to the other lug that makes the switch normally closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loosegroove Posted June 24, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Right, well I just sent you my credit card info and SSN, so that part's done. As far as the next step, I basically just have to run two wires off it just like the SPST switch? And either the two lugs on the left, or the two lugs on the right will be normally closed, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chakosh Posted June 24, 2009 Members Share Posted June 24, 2009 Right, well I just sent you my credit card info and SSN, so that part's done.As far as the next step, I basically just have to run two wires off it just like the SPST switch? And either the two lugs on the left, or the two lugs on the right will be normally closed, right? A DPDT switch has the six lugs:1 23 45 6 Lugs 3 and 4 are the "common" port. Use your meter and figure out if both 1 and 5 are "normally closed" to lug 3 or if one's an open and one's closed. Click the switch and make sure that it's doing what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MakuseruSukotto Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 The mini switches from radioshack hold up fine. Did mine about a year ago, use it every day, never had any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitslinger Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 I use an inexpensive yamaha footswitch with my RC2, I thinks its an FC4 or FC5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loosegroove Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 The mini switches from radioshack hold up fine. Did mine about a year ago, use it every day, never had any problems. Really, they seem so small and fragile. There are also these on ebay. I wonder how they compare in quality to the ones from Radio Shack. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290326047882&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123 or from Radio Shack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Drifter182 Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 those honestly look the same, i think its just the lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MakuseruSukotto Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 those honestly look the same, i think its just the lighting +1. Just go with the ratshack ones. I've yet to have problems, and no ones that I have modded has broke yet either, so I'd say they do just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loosegroove Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 those honestly look the same, i think its just the lighting They are at least a little different. The shafts below the black buttons appear to be metal. So I was hoping they would be a bit more durable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rydock Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Post pics for a walk through please! I want to make one too, but I'm a complete noob at wiring things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MakuseruSukotto Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Post pics for a walk through please! I want to make one too, but I'm a complete noob at wiring things up. You just connect the ground to one lug on both switches; then the tip to the other lug to one switch, and then the ring to the other lug on the second switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MakuseruSukotto Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 This might be a simple concept for you guys, but whats the difference in using a DPDT instead of a SPST? An SPST switch turns one connection on or off. It only has two positions, made, or broke. A DPDT switch can turn two connections from one status to another. It doesnt have to be just made or broke. It can be made or made, just sent to two different places. You can always use a DPDT in place of a SPST. Edit: Wtf, ninja deleted. Glad i quoted so I don't seem crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rydock Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 An SPST switch turns one connection on or off. It only has two positions, made, or broke.A DPDT switch can turn two connections from one status to another. It doesnt have to be just made or broke. It can be made or made, just sent to two different places.You can always use a DPDT in place of a SPST.Edit: Wtf, ninja deleted. Glad i quoted so I don't seem crazy. wtf I didn't say that o.o; Hahaha thanks for the ninja reply. Yeah I sorta found out about it real quick, but thanks for summarizing it into a single post for me =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loosegroove Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Thanks for the all the posts guys. I think I am all set! I'm going to house the dual footswitches for my RC-2 plus an additional tap tempo switch for my Echohead in one enclosure. This cheapie for $2.99 from Radio Shack will fit the bill perfectly: After looking more closely at SuperVelcro's mods I realize I was looking at the wrong switches at Radio Shack. He used these: Since the radio shack ones are $3.99 for two, I might as well buy the DPDT ones I mentioned from effects connection. They are only $1.75 each, though they will be more once you factor in shipping. But I have a few other things to buy there anyway, and the switches seem to be much more foot stomping friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MakuseruSukotto Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Plus, the ones SVB used were wrong. Make sure it's normally closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loosegroove Posted June 25, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Plus, the ones SVB used were wrong.Make sure it's normally closed. Oh SVB, used the wrong ones? I just went back and looked at his write up...I see. At first I thought he used the SPST NC switches that come in a pack of 4 which I posted pics of first. Then I noticed that the tops looked different, so I figured he must have used the SPDT switches (since I know the RC-2 requires switches that are NC). But now looking at it again, you're right. He used a pack of 2 SPST switches. And the only SPST switches radio shack sells in a pack of 2 that look like that are NO). So which ones did you use then? The SPST NC or the SPDT switches from Radio Shack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MakuseruSukotto Posted June 25, 2009 Members Share Posted June 25, 2009 Oh SVB, used the wrong ones? I just went back and looked at his write up...I see. At first I thought he used the SPST NC switches that come in a pack of 4 which I posted pics of first. Then I noticed that the tops looked different, so I figured he must have used the SPDT switches (since I know the RC-2 requires switches that are NC). But now looking at it again, you're right. He used a pack of 2 SPST switches. And the only SPST switches radio shack sells in a pack of 2 that look like that are NO).So which ones did you use then? The SPST NC or the SPDT switches from Radio Shack? When SVB first did it (and what his tutorial is written up as) were done with NO, but he adds later that they should be NC. I use the mini-push button NC's from ratshack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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