DigiTech PDS-8000 EchoPlus vs. EHX 16 Second Delay

[Jumbo Fuzz]

Here

[johnrambo]

on most of the 16SDD's you have to preset your loop time which is a pain in the ass to use on the fly. this was fixed on the later versions. if you're looking to manipulate loops once they've been made it's hard to beat this pedal though. you can speed up/ slow down with or without changing tempo, reverse and add modulation with control over the speed and depth.

[Jumbo Fuzz]

Yeah, I read about that EHX mod. That would be absolutely necessary for me.

[Jisatsu]

I say both.

 

[Jumbo Fuzz]

Very cool.

 

Since you are in a position to know, please compare and contrast them.

 

Why haven

[Jisatsu]

I don't loop with the PDS-8000. I use it as my basic digital delay. Conversely I don't use the 16 second delay as a delay, but as a dedicated looper.

 

It's easier to loop with the 16SD. If you have the update you can do unlimited looping, and don't have to worry about a count in.

 

The mix took me the longest time to get right, having your input and output balance just right, while not having too much added gain. The sweep controls are really neat and fun to play with and I expect you will really enjoy using them. I leave them alone for the most part when playing music, but doing noise stuff I mess with them quite frequently.

 

If you can get the footswitch for the 16SD, I highly recommend it. It makes things much easier, and I really wish I had one. I haven't tried using it with the midi out yet, so can't comment on that.

 

The PDS-8000...well...like I said haven't really gotten down the looping feature on it, so I pretty much use it as a straight forward delay. It's one of the few delays I've used that when you change the delay time the repeats flow smoothly like an analog delay.

 

Hope that helps ya out. Oh yeah, and the 16SD is cheaper on average than the PDS-8000. =)

[Jumbo Fuzz]

Bump.

[johnrambo]

if you decide to get a 16SDD you should email ehx and ask if they still do the mods before you commit to buying one.

[mitre]

does anyone know if EHX still mods the 16 Second Delay, and what the details of the mod are? I thought I read somewhere that it took out the count-in, which is what I really need.

[mitre]

anyone? details of the EHX mods?

[johnrambo]

last time i checked with them they still would do the modifications but that was over a year ago. you should just email or call them and ask. the modification eliminates the four beat count in when the time slider is all the way up and allows you to use it the way you would most standard loopers. stomp to start recording then stomp to start playback.

[ClickyClique]

Looping with the PDS-8000 can be a bit tricky if you're trying to loop an exact phrase. You have to preset the loop time and then play into it as opposed to the stomp-record, stomp-stop of the Lo-Fi Loop Junky and similar newer units.

[Jumbo Fuzz]

Thanks for the information.

[Hiwatt Bob]

i used to own a pds 8000. as a phrase sampler, it won't work well. what it does do though is very cool--you can do more random sound-collage sort of looping. i love it.

 

if that's what you're after--given the prices of pds 8000's--the pigtronix echolution does alot more.

 

or get a pds 20/20--you can tweak it for longer looping time (maybe around 6 seconds before it starts to degrade) and you have the ability to add modulation.

[mitre]

 

last time i checked with them they still would do the modifications but that was over a year ago. you should just email or call them and ask. the modification eliminates the four beat count in when the time slider is all the way up and allows you to use it the way you would most standard loopers. stomp to start recording then stomp to start playback.

 

 

thanks!