Members Palaver Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 Hopefully, we see one at NAMM! Think it will happen? Sorry if this is in one of the 100 other Mopho threads... but I didn't come across any pondering or rumours about the possibility. Cheers,PB EDIT: I realize how stupid this was after I read some of the responses. I realize that the Mopho is based on a single voiced P'08, and I should of rephrased it as: "Does the single voice with the sub-osc on the Mopho give it a completely different character from the P'08?" Does one gain much more from the Mopho as opposed to just using a single voice on the P'08? Would it make sense to make a "Poly-Mopho?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members idiotboy Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 ...wouldn't that be a Prophet 08? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 ...wouldn't that be a Prophet 08? Give the man a cigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 ...now with suboscillator expansion card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members idiotboy Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 ...." Prophet 08 EX " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 That'd be the new DSI Badonkadonk. BOWWW BOWWWW BOWWWW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundxplorer Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 " Nah, call it the ProPho '08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members idiotboy Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 fo sho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Palaver Posted October 17, 2008 Author Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 Give the man a cigar. I realized how stupid I looked when I posted that... I know that it's based off a single voice of the P'08, but I figured the sub-osc would give the Mopho quite a different flavour. I guess I should of asked... is the Mopho have a different flavour from the Prophet 08? Does the sub-osc change things all that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members idiotboy Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 ...no more stupid than me. I forgot about the sub-osc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 I realized how stupid I looked when I posted that... I know that it's based off a single voice of the P'08, but I figured the sub-osc would give the Mopho quite a different flavour.I guess I should of asked... is the Mopho have a different flavour from the Prophet 08? Does the sub-osc change things all that much? No. Same result as turning the second osc. down on the P'08. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundxplorer Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 No. Same result as turning the second osc. down on the P'08. Sorry. Except you are using up OSC 2 to do that. The SUB is additional on the MoPho, correct? So you could still set up OSC 1 and OSC 2 in a detuned fashion to fatten things up, then have the SUB below both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted October 17, 2008 Members Share Posted October 17, 2008 Yeah man 2 oscillators, one with a sub down an octave, the other 2 octaves, will do a lot more than 1 osc using a octave tuned second oscillator. I use 2 oscillators with subs on my Andromeda all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 P'08 Stack A/B. Then use B for the Sub. More flexible too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 P'08 Stack A/B. Then use B for the Sub. More flexible too. WINNAR. Good idea, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 If you stack you'll be using separate VCF and VCA so you won't get same saturation effects. If you stack your oscillator and "sub" won't necessarily be sync'ed (I don't know how DSI DCOs work) which may be favorable or unfavorable but still a difference. If you stack you've lost some of the streamlined interface of including it in a voice in the first place. But sure its a hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpatz Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 It would be called a PolyPho, or a PoPho. MoPhos are cheap enough, that one could buy a few of them and make a "poly"-pho with them. Sure you can get a P'08 but you lose the sub-oscillators. I wonder if the MoPho has poly-chaining like the P'08. IIRC, the Pro-One also had sub-oscillator(s) that the Prophet 5 lacked, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 If you stack you'll be using separate VCF and VCA so you won't get same saturation effects. If you stack your oscillator and "sub" won't necessarily be sync'ed (I don't know how DSI DCOs work) which may be favorable or unfavorable but still a difference. If you stack you've lost some of the streamlined interface of including it in a voice in the first place. But sure its a hack. Settings in Stack A can be copied to B. Then just turn down the oscillator. It's all one instrument so it's all synced. Your just splitting the voices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 So you're sure the DCOs across all voices are synced all the time? I don't know about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 So you're sure the DCOs across all voices are synced all the time? I don't know about that. They are all digitally controlled aren't they. Just splitting voices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 As far as I know each DCO (pair?) is generated in completely different microcontrollers, one per voice. I don't think those are necessarily synchronized and I don't really see a need for them to be. Asynchronous oscillators an octave apart won't have the same additive phase characteristics that a flip-flip generated sub oscillator will. Interesting side note about: They are all digitally controlled aren't they. The other day I observed the Nord G2 (software demo at least) oscillators are not necessarily in phase. I found this interesting, but it makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 And you can't drive the filter and amplifier as hard if you aren't jamming 4 signals into the pipe rather than 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MuzikB Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 There's always a master clock and there is the Unison button. It works for each separate Stack and Split. I'm so glad I kept my P'08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted October 18, 2008 Members Share Posted October 18, 2008 Unison am equal VCO/DCO sync? What's master clock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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