Members surfcat Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 I tried a '74 Reissu scipt-the one with no led, no power input-sounds great but a bit hissy. I'm looking for that classic '70s phase-Zeppelin (Rover, etc), Van Halen, Floyd, Eagles, etc. The Analogman modded one is an option but it's pricey for a 1 knob phaser. I've been checking out others online but I want to make sure it's got that sound and any other features are icing. I know I'll get some Whirlwind and Retrosonic suggestions-do these really compare? Another one I really like on youtube is the Cmatmods-has 3 knobs so the depth control (like the Retro-sonic) is a big plus, but does it really nail the 70's phase 90 sound?http://youtu.be/XkCS4IUm_JQ Notice the slow whooshing sound from about 2:00-love that sound. The VFE Enterprise is another versitile one-2,3 and 4 stage switch, unive/phaser switch. If it also nails the '74 sound that would be great. The Pheiffer one is also pretty cool looking but I'm not sure the sweep is right-it sounds very wah-like, but if anyone's tried it, what are your impressions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleewell Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 the old ones, made pre 1978. the newer production models are ok but really dont compare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevenglass Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 def the enterprise.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hey, buy my Enterprise. Turns out I dig a more modern phase sound than that and prefer the Malekko. New w/ box/papers. PM if interested. Or just ask me questions. I'll tell you what you wanna know about it even if you don't buy it, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members surfcat Posted February 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 def the enterprise.. Can you go into more detail? I like it's features but I just want to know how well it does the classic stuff-VH, Zep, etc. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumFalcon Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 the best phase 90 is a small stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 Can you go into more detail? I like it's features but I just want to know how well it does the classic stuff-VH, Zep, etc. Thanks. It's good for that VH thing. See, I use phaser either for reggae or modern sounding gainy rhythm/lead licks. I'm not a vintage tone expert thiough. It's pretty tweakable, if you like Phase 90s, I doubt this one would disappoint. My first phaser was the Malekko and it's got a different thing goin on which I like. It's a little more extreme sounding, whereas the VFE seems more natural and mellow. The feedback knob can make it insane though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevenglass Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 It's pretty much a phase 90 on crack. Yes it can do all of those things. I can get floyd tones out of a small stone though...it really depends on on how you play though dude... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members surfcat Posted February 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 It's good for that VH thing. See, I use phaser either for reggae or modern sounding gainy rhythm/lead licks.I'm not a vintage tone expert thiough. It's pretty tweakable, if you like Phase 90s, I doubt this one would disappoint. My first phaser was the Malekko and it's got a different thing goin on which I like. It's a little more extreme sounding, whereas the VFE seems more natural and mellow. The feedback knob can make it insane though. Thanks for the info. I'll keep yours in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 Word no prob, anymore questions or anything, just ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members surfcat Posted February 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 It's pretty much a phase 90 on crack. Yes it can do all of those things. I can get floyd tones out of a small stone...it really depends on on how you play though dude... Yeah, I know it can get kind of whacky from the demos. I'm not sure how much I'd actually use it like that though which is why I want to make sure it can also get the classic sounds, which I'd use most of the time. The vibe setting is cool, but I do have a mini deja-not sure if this one would knock it off the board but if it's close enough it might save some space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 yea the enterprise looks sweet. lots and lots of versatility, but it seems to be very extreme - not too much where its more traditional. the retrosonic phaser looks really good too. and the Mad Professor phaser gets lots of great reviews if you have that coin to drop on it. but i'd say your best bet is the VFE, dont get the whirlwind if you werent happy with the '74 phase 90 reissue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 Yeah, I know it can get kind of whacky from the demos. I'm not sure how much I'd actually use it like that though which is why I want to make sure it can also get the classic sounds, which I'd use most of the time. The vibe setting is cool, but I do have a mini deja-not sure if this one would knock it off the board but if it's close enough it might save some space. The vibe is not really like a vibe. It's weird, just kinda makes the phase sound different, a little flatter or something. You'll wanna keep your deja if you like vibe. Basically to me, that switch was always on P, I'd bounce between 3 and 4 stage, hated the 2. Feedback in the center, or left a little to make it more intense (the sacrifice is that if you add too much negative feedback, the headroom goes way down and itMs peaky if you play clean). With gain though, that negative feedback really helps it cut. Depth was always all the way up. Rate varied. Tiny black mix knob was always dead center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzz/karl Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 Played one of these in a blind tour box.A/B'd it next to my 70's orig.Closest I've heard.I've also compared it to all the MXR's,retrosonic & wirlwind.The VFE looks great on paper,would love to hear it.http://www.buildyourownclone.com/phaseroyal.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hivedestruction Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 The Retro Sonic phaser is legit. Probably my favorite pedal and I hated the old phase 90 I used to have. I'm also typically a small stone guy and I'd take the retro sonic over a small stone any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 I found I'm a Phase 100 guy. I have an early block letter 100 that sounds better than the Whirlwind Phase 90 I just sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members surfcat Posted February 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 yea the enterprise looks sweet. lots and lots of versatility, but it seems to be very extreme - not too much where its more traditional. the retrosonic phaser looks really good too.and the Mad Professor phaser gets lots of great reviews if you have that coin to drop on it.but i'd say your best bet is the VFE, dont get the whirlwind if you werent happy with the '74 phase 90 reissue I wouldn't say I wasn't happy with the '74-I actually got one that was defective but I liked the sound a lot. From what I understand the Whirlwind is close but not exactly the same so I'm not sure if I'd like it as much or not. The Retro-sonic is kind of the same situation, it's supposed to be close and a lot of people like it but it's not exactly the same either. There's just no way to try them out in person. The Cmat mods sounds promising but it seems like no one has one so reviews are scarce. If anyone can compare or review any of them I'd appreciate any feedback. I haven't tried many so the '74 is really my reference point. I've also read that the Retro-sonic has an internal trim pot that gets it closer to the Mxr-I don't know why they don't adjust it that way from the start. I wonder how close it can get? With that one I worry about it being too subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AnneP Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 I have this and love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members macadood Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 well yea, the scrip reissues are great. its just a matter of (at least for me) if 1 knob is enough. which is why i like the retrosonic or VFE which gives you more control over the sweep and the mix and depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taylor. Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 I'd try the Maxon PT-999 Phase Tone. REALLY swirly and cool, I couldn't help but play Shine On You Crazy Diamond every time I picked up my guitar. Way too expensive new but used they go around $75ish. I stupidly sold it to try another phaser that turned out to suck hard (Nobels PH-D). Evidently it has a trimmer for "compression," but I never even opened it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AnneP Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 For more variety in sound, I go for a vibe (I have the MJM Sixties Vibe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members surfcat Posted February 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 I'd try the Maxon PT-999 Phase Tone. REALLY swirly and cool, I couldn't help but play Shine On You Crazy Diamond every time I picked up my guitar. Way too expensive new but used they go around $75ish. I stupidly sold it to try another phaser that turned out to suck hard (Nobels PH-D). Evidently it has a trimmer for "compression," but I never even opened it up. Yeah, forgot that one. There's a Gearmanndude video of that and the '74 and they sound really close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members notjonahbutnoah Posted February 23, 2012 Members Share Posted February 23, 2012 Oh, I made a {censored}ty video of my VFE, just one setting, but it gives an idea of the way it sounds: [video=youtube;1CtlPvM3qNo] Setting: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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