Members hosebeast Posted September 24, 2012 Members Share Posted September 24, 2012 I was watching videos of the old Digitech XP pedals and ran across this thing's existence. I emailed the dude who does them and I guess he still does the mod and has a few pre-modded ones for sale. Thinking about picking one up, but it's kinda hard to bite the bullet. On one hand, I could get rid of my tuner and probably my whammy, but getting rid of the whammy would mean I couldn't use the awesome Whammy effects with the Alien features from the XP300. On the other hand, it's a little bit more than I figured it would cost, and I've never played with any of the XP pedals before so I might hate it. ITT - over-load me with info on the Digitech XP series. Do the patches sound too sterile? Do they not work well with other effects? Are they kind of a stupid line of pedals and that's why they didn't exist for very long at all? The XP300 is like my dream pedal, but the only evidence I have of it being interesting is videos of other people using their own gear, so who knows how it'll react to my stuff? Excited to hear back from you all :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iblamesummers Posted September 24, 2012 Members Share Posted September 24, 2012 isn't there like two different dudes that do this mod i forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted September 24, 2012 Members Share Posted September 24, 2012 he doesn't do anything to fix the bypass/buffer does he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WAWBanks Posted September 24, 2012 Members Share Posted September 24, 2012 I had one for a while, it had some good sounds but the whole interface/buffer was bull{censored}. You have to unplug the power to change between modes. The whammy/wah (XP100) isn't great and doesn't compare to any of the other whammys. Great pedal but not worth the amount Jetpack guy charges for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tron Murphy Posted September 24, 2012 Members Share Posted September 24, 2012 Disapoint not about jetpacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Texas Noise Factory Posted September 24, 2012 Members Share Posted September 24, 2012 I've played wih a few of these series pedals. They all have at least a few cool sounds. But the bypass/buffer, and the physical build are IMHO a bit lacking. I've seen more than a couple fail for one reason or another. Of course, that doesn't keep me from looking for a good deal on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted September 24, 2012 Members Share Posted September 24, 2012 Great pedal for studio use, but for gigging it is tough to get the most out of it. As WAWBanks pointed out, you have to power down to switch between the 4 modules. I had one for a couple of years, and I sold it to afford my VOX Ultrasonic. In the long run, the VOX was more than worth it, but I lament the loss of the XP 1000 at times. It really is a fun pedal if you don't have high expectations for it in a live setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted September 24, 2012 Members Share Posted September 24, 2012 To summarize- a pedal that needs its own bypass looper and boost/buffer/eq in line with it AND likely only worth it for a few effects that it can pull off very well. Buy for $60-75, otherwise not a good value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hosebeast Posted September 25, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 it's like $400+ haha there's one on ebay for a little cheaper though. i guess i could also keep an eye out for a cheap XP jawn on ebay and send it to him. that's probably be the cheapest route. i need more info, come on dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faldoe Posted September 25, 2012 Members Share Posted September 25, 2012 I had one for a while, it had some good sounds but the whole interface/buffer was bull{censored}. You have to unplug the power to change between modes. The whammy/wah (XP100) isn't great and doesn't compare to any of the other whammys. Great pedal but not worth the amount Jetpack guy charges for them. ya I had one too but sold it. Its a great concept - having all the stations in one, but if it could be implemented in a way thats more practical for live use, that would be better.Its still a sick mod no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hosebeast Posted September 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 BUMPER for more info on the XP series and the benefit/stupidness of sinking money into the JPM XP-1000. Srsly, I need some info on these things because surprisingly, there's basically nothing about them online. When were the XP pedals produced? Why did they stop making them? Is the Expression Factory close to them like I read on some random post somewhere? I still need to hear about this supposed 'vacuum' that the pedals create with yr tone; like, there's no dry signal/volume control, or maybe a volume drop or something? Really, if anybody who has owned ANY of the XP models wouldn't mind, I would like to read as much detail about them, any of them really, as possible. This will be a huge, huge investment for me - bigger than any pedal invest I will probably ever make, so I wanna make sure I'm making the right decision. Thanks in advance, cool dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Honestly, I would just get a XP-300 somewhere. Ultimately, you're buying it for those sounds. Sure it's be handy to have the other sounds, but most other pedals out there will do those sounds just as good if not better, for less of a hassle of putting up with the Jetpackmods power down layout anyways. Avoid the pain in the ass and get the elusive sounds in something you can flip easier if you tire of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 When were the XP pedals produced? Why did they stop making them? Is the Expression Factory close to them like I read on some random post somewhere? I still need to hear about this supposed 'vacuum' that the pedals create with yr tone; like, there's no dry signal/volume control, or maybe a volume drop or something? They were introduced in the late 90s... Maybe 1998?They stopped making them because they didn't sell very well at the time, but the Space Station was a sleeper hit that grew to collector's status.The XPs have their own buffer with a tiny knob on the back that controls the input gain. Being such a tiny knob, it is difficult to adjust with precision. But worse yet, when bypassed the buffer really degrades your source signal. If you plan to use it live, you'll want a bypass looper to bypass the buffer entirely. The only issue with that is that some of the XP's best presets have stereo outputs, so you'll need a looper that can accomodate 2 effect returns and 2 looper outputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Honestly, I would just get a XP-300 somewhere. Ultimately, you're buying it for those sounds. Sure it's be handy to have the other sounds, but most other pedals out there will do those sounds just as good if not better, for less of a hassle of putting up with the Jetpackmods power down layout anyways. Avoid the pain in the ass and get the elusive sounds in something you can flip easier if you tire of them. This is exactly what I ended up doing. Couldn't agree more. It's all about the Space Station. The other models have some great presets, but I have those covered in other pedals that I prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Also, soundclips here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=750566&songID=7557041 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DylanWilde Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Doesn't the Digitech EX-7 basically accomplish the same thing as the JP XP1000. . .except for being much cheaper and far more intuitive/easy to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members iblamesummers Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Doesn't the Digitech EX-7 basically accomplish the same thing as the JP XP1000. . .except for being much cheaper and far more intuitive/easy to use? it lacks that Yellow mojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 it lacks that Yellow mojo. IIRC, the EX-7 only recreates 1 of the 30+ preset programs... the Synth Strings preset 1. There's a whole lot more to the XP 300 than just the 1st preset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onyxrhino Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 IIRC, the EX-7 only recreates 1 of the 30+ preset programs... the Synth Strings preset 1. There's a whole lot more to the XP 300 than just the 1st preset. it does all the synth strings presets. but it doesn't do any of the other space station patches (and alot of those sound cool as hell, while the synth strings gets old after an hour or so). Beyond that, it does some (limited) modulation and pitch shift, but no reverb. It's like a fraction of the Jetpak mod capabilities. And the treadle sweep is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hosebeast Posted September 26, 2012 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Why would I spend $350, minimum, for JUST the XP300, when for another $50 I could have access to ALL the pedals, though? I guess you can't set aside yr favorite settings with the JPM - anybody know if you can do that with the space station? Like, if I liked settings 12, 31, 37 and 40, does a setting exist where I can simply scroll between these few patches and not have to scroll all the way through them? Also, can you only scroll through the settings in one direction, or can you go both ways? Like, could I go from 20 up to 24, then back down to 20 without having to go all the way around? Again, thanks in advance for all the replies I'll hopefully get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WAWBanks Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 I guess you can't set aside yr favorite settings with the JPM - anybody know if you can do that with the space station? Like, if I liked settings 12, 31, 37 and 40, does a setting exist where I can simply scroll between these few patches and not have to scroll all the way through them? Also, can you only scroll through the settings in one direction, or can you go both ways? Like, could I go from 20 up to 24, then back down to 20 without having to go all the way around?Again, thanks in advance for all the replies I'll hopefully get. as far as I remember... No. You can't move the presets around. Also with the pedal it has the two stomp switches on the front. Bottom one is go up a preset or HOLD DOWN to go down a preset. The top switch is bypass and both together is the tuner. Actually I might have the top and bottom ones the wrong way around but basically if you're on preset 7 and want to be on preset 2 you have to hold your foot down on the switch while it slowly ticks backwards to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 I guess you can't set aside yr favorite settings with the JPM - anybody know if you can do that with the space station? Like, if I liked settings 12, 31, 37 and 40, does a setting exist where I can simply scroll between these few patches and not have to scroll all the way through them? Also, can you only scroll through the settings in one direction, or can you go both ways? Like, could I go from 20 up to 24, then back down to 20 without having to go all the way around? ftp://ftp.digitech.com/pub/pdfs/Discontinued/Manuals/XP300.pdf Yes, you can store 6 of your favorite presets in User Mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 it does all the synth strings presets. That certainly makes the EX7 more appealing. I do remember the treadle sweep being quite shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ech0es Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 I have one: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2827954-Hipster-Hopper-For-Rock-amp-Abstract-HipHop-lovers/page4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Naterel Posted September 26, 2012 Members Share Posted September 26, 2012 Is this based on the XP1000 sort of or just the Space Station? [video=youtube;MvUsNgpZH1w] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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