Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 19, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 19, 2007 Originally Posted by anti-flag193 The SMMH is going back. Can't get rid of the volume and tone suckage unless I put it in front of the amp, and then the repeats are all distorted and sound like {censored}. It really doesn't seem to be able to do that much more than the DD-20, besides the reverse looping and octave changes, and the flanger-ish sounds. That's a bummer. Like with all EHX products, everyone's rig seems to interact differently. I haven't had any volume or tone issues at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted December 19, 2007 Members Share Posted December 19, 2007 you going through the loop? What amp? I'm going through the loop of my jcm 800 2203x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 19, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 19, 2007 Originally Posted by anti-flag193 you going through the loop? What amp? I'm going through the loop of my jcm 800 2203x I'm running in front of two vintage Fenders - very different rig and configuration; but I'm not getting any distorted repeats or anything like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted December 19, 2007 Members Share Posted December 19, 2007 Originally Posted by Fender&EHX4ever I'm running in front of two vintage Fenders - very different rig and configuration; but I'm not getting any distorted repeats or anything like that Yeah, when i ran it in front, turned the gain down and the volume up it sounded nice, but I play with gain so it has to go in the loop. Oh well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members XanaduNEX Posted December 20, 2007 Members Share Posted December 20, 2007 Fender&EHX4ever, in your "SMMH_Demo1" soundclip, I'm assuming the washy delay around 0:05 is the SMMH, right? What mode would that be in? I haven't had a chance to try it out yet but I'm GASing pretty hard for it. Also, does anyone know if the SMMH looper can be triggered single-shot to produce Minus the Bear-esque stutters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 20, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 20, 2007 Originally Posted by XanaduNEX Fender&EHX4ever, in your "SMMH_Demo1" soundclip, I'm assuming the washy delay around 0:05 is the SMMH, right? What mode would that be in? Hi XanaduNEX! From what I remember, the settings were close to this. Hazarai = Echo 300ms + Mod Blend = 1:00 Decay = 3:00 Filter = 12:00 Repeats = 11:00 Delay = Clockwise maximum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members XanaduNEX Posted December 20, 2007 Members Share Posted December 20, 2007 Originally Posted by Fender&EHX4ever From what I remember, the settings were close to this... Awesome, thanks! The sound clips are brilliant, just the kinds of sounds I was chasing. I guess that seals it, I'll have to get in on this SMMH business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members g-nem Posted December 20, 2007 Members Share Posted December 20, 2007 There is a definite volume drop- anyone who says it isn't that bad isn't paying attention. Nothing worse than playing with a band, kick in some delay for a fat lead and your volume goes down. The delay sound to me isn't that great, sounds pretty thin digital. The tone controls, however, are excellent and make up for the basic sound. You can fade out the looper by setting the feedback low and holding down overdub- works pretty well. Of coursr you can also work the mix knob.This is a really unique delay- it will NOT replace your utility delay do to the volume drop and basic delay tone. But it will be an excellent textural delay for the right moments. Not going on my board, but definitely in my arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted December 20, 2007 Members Share Posted December 20, 2007 Originally Posted by g-nem There is a definite volume drop- anyone who says it isn't that bad isn't paying attention. Nothing worse than playing with a band, kick in some delay for a fat lead and your volume goes down. The delay sound to me isn't that great, sounds pretty thin digital. The tone controls, however, are excellent and make up for the basic sound. You can fade out the looper by setting the feedback low and holding down overdub- works pretty well. Of coursr you can also work the mix knob. This is a really unique delay- it will NOT replace your utility delay do to the volume drop and basic delay tone. But it will be an excellent textural delay for the right moments. Not going on my board, but definitely in my arsenal. I agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted December 20, 2007 Author Members Share Posted December 20, 2007 Originally Posted by g-nem There is a definite volume drop- anyone who says it isn't that bad isn't paying attention. I'm content to agree that someone else's rig experiences a volume drop with this pedal, but mine simply doesn't, and it isn't because I'm not paying attention. If I set the Blend knob even a hair past 12:00, yes I will experience a volume drop with the original signal. But when the Blend knob is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members neoflox Posted December 20, 2007 Members Share Posted December 20, 2007 Today I decided to sell my SMMH. Hard decision but there are too many issues with it. Uncomfortable looping, too digital sound, bad live accessability. Not sure what to have instead. I also want to get rid of the Headrush E2, good looper but crappy psu/tone problems. Maybe a DL4 + RV-3. And perhaps replace the Ibanez DDL with a dark E600? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted December 20, 2007 Members Share Posted December 20, 2007 Originally Posted by neoflox Today I decided to sell my SMMH. Hard decision but there are too many issues with it. Uncomfortable looping, too digital sound, bad live accessability. Not sure what to have instead. I also want to get rid of the Headrush E2, good looper but crappy psu/tone problems. Maybe a DL4 + RV-3. And perhaps replace the Ibanez DDL with a dark E600? Go with a DD-20 man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monsterbot Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 Just got my SMMH today. Seems like it has potential, but I have an issue with it.When I put it into bypass, I get a HUGE pop. First time I bypassed, I thought something came unplugged or shorted. Happens every time I go to bypass.Anyone else have this problem?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 Originally Posted by theincredible Just got my SMMH today. Seems like it has potential, but I have an issue with it. When I put it into bypass, I get a HUGE pop. First time I bypassed, I thought something came unplugged or shorted. Happens every time I go to bypass. Anyone else have this problem? . I didn't notice a HUGE pop, but there was a small pop. It did add some weird pulsing static hiss to my rig though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monsterbot Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 Originally Posted by anti-flag193 I didn't notice a HUGE pop, but there was a small pop. It did add some weird pulsing static hiss to my rig though. Definitely HUGE on mine. I have some effects that have a minor click or pop when engaged, but this is loud. The bypass switch is very stiff compared to the loop/tempo switch. Takes some effort to get the bypass switch to go down. Not circus strongman effort, but a solid push. The loop/tempo on the other hand is like every normal switch I've used. All the talk and samples here really made this pedal sound slick. I'm on hold now with MF to get it returned. Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 Originally Posted by theincredible Definitely HUGE on mine. I have some effects that have a minor click or pop when engaged, but this is loud. The bypass switch is very stiff compared to the loop/tempo switch. Takes some effort to get the bypass switch to go down. Not circus strongman effort, but a solid push. The loop/tempo on the other hand is like every normal switch I've used. All the talk and samples here really made this pedal sound slick. I'm on hold now with MF to get it returned. Bummer. Yeah, I got mine Tuesday and returned it today. I ran it through the loop and hated the volume drop and my tone just turned to mush when engaged no matter what. I'll stick with my DD-20/ DE7 combo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willburford Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 Today I decided to sell my SMMH. Hard decision but there are too many issues with it. Uncomfortable looping, too digital sound, bad live accessability. Not sure what to have instead. I also want to get rid of the Headrush E2, good looper but crappy psu/tone problems. Maybe a DL4 + RV-3. And perhaps replace the Ibanez DDL with a dark E600? I think I'm going to do the same thing, but have a dd-20 + rv-3. Hopefully a SIB mr. echo / freakshow digilog (when I figure out the difference between the two) to go in there as well. Perhaps even an re-20 + rv-3. We'll see. Either way, I don't think I'm keeping the SMMH. I just don't click with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willburford Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 Also, the other day I had the effects like this: SMMH->dd-6->VL 4-knob trem When I had my trem on and I turned the SMMH on a basic 400 ms or so delay it suddenly made the sound really... hollow?... and added some sort of modulation to it. It was pretty ugly. I tried turning the dd-6 on with the trem and my sound stayed the same (what I would have expected). Just a heads up, incase any of you guys get the same problem/need to have tremolo after the SMMH. It COULD be the trem, but I think not seeing as it worked fine with the dd-6. Fender&ehx, have you tried putting the pulsar post-SMMH? If so, anything odd happen when they were both on? Just curious- your SMMH seems to be the best of the bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members olejason Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 I run a pulsar after the smmh w/ no problem or tone issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarrocka205 Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 What the hell is going on here???? I see A LOT of people who were gung ho for the SMMH and now, well now it's, "I have/will take it back". What.... the.... eff?I have a major issue with any EHX pedal in my FX Loop. There's just something WE'RE doing wrong. In my pre amp chain, it's pure gold. I love the dog mess outta my pedals. The only pedal I have in the Loop is the TU-2. With no volume drop on it either. So, I dunno about tone/volume issues with the SMMH, but I think those who don't think this pedal is the absolute t!ts needs to sit back, relax, and tweak! Mayne... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 Originally Posted by guitarrocka205 What the hell is going on here???? I see A LOT of people who were gung ho for the SMMH and now, well now it's, "I have/will take it back". What.... the.... eff? I have a major issue with any EHX pedal in my FX Loop. There's just something WE'RE doing wrong. In my pre amp chain, it's pure gold. I love the dog mess outta my pedals. The only pedal I have in the Loop is the TU-2. With no volume drop on it either. So, I dunno about tone/volume issues with the SMMH, but I think those who don't think this pedal is the absolute t!ts needs to sit back, relax, and tweak! Mayne... We're doing something wrong by putting a delay(which is a very common effect to put in the loop) in the loop? It's has nothing to do with tweaking. I messed with all the knobs and nothing would fix the tone suckage and volume drop, something my DD-5, DD-6, DD-20 and DE7 don't do. It just sounded so fake. It might be "pure gold" for you but for people who use some gain and don't like distorted and harsh repeats, the loop is the only way to run a delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty Belle Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 you mean the fx loop in your amp yea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anti-flag193 Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 Originally Posted by Ned Flanders you mean the fx loop in your amp yea? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty Belle Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 ahh ok,no problem for me than i use a twin reverb and it dont have a loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty Belle Posted December 21, 2007 Members Share Posted December 21, 2007 heres a pic to visualize your frustration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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