Members Damokles Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 HiYesterday i saw one of our local coverbands who just perform at lousy partys and play all night, covering all kinds of popular chart rock&metal and it was actually the first time i heard an old marshall plexy in action. And well that Soudn was {censored}ing brilliant, the guy played a gibson through that head into a 4x12" marshall but i didn't get the effects. Pure rock 'n roll that soudn was brilliant and i want it. But a plexi is nowhere to be fund round here except on ebay and it's just too expensive. So i'm considering a DSL but i don't know how close it can get. Advise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sty1es Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 You can get pretty close with a DSL but you gotta crank it da {censored} up and get those power tubes working. How loud was the dude's plexi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul6string Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 I'd say mine comes pretty close with the clean channel cranked up a bit, but don't drop 1500.00 on an amp without trying it yourself. I will say that the DSL(head) doesn't get sweet until about 4 though. That may be a bit loud in a music store unless they have an isolation room for you to crank up in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Damokles Posted October 1, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 That Dudes plexi was loud enough that my ears are still whistling, plus he was miced very professionally. All in all all teenagers are crazy not even the concerts i go too are that loud... and i'm twenty years old and play in a rock band as well my current amp never cranked below 2 o clock.Yeah i should try it out myself i guess i'll have to find a store who has a DSl 100. I've seen the litte combo version several times, how does it compare if i play it, like it but want to buy the half stack then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Side by side comparison, the DSL was a buzzy and inarticulate compared to a plexi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aerorockjax Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Originally posted by Rich Side by side comparison, the DSL was a buzzy and inarticulate compared to a plexi. You can always geta dsl modded to eliminate the bozziness and make it able to get dead on plexi tones. You might also want to have a switch added that will allow you to select the number of power tubes you want to use. You can also buy a attenuator like a hotplate with dsl, plexi or any all tube head and get the power tubes too cook at lower volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 I have a hotplate. It emaciates the feel of amps. I'm not ever planning on owning another DSL 100, I did all the tube pulling tricks yada, yada, yada. The plexi is just a better amp for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vlad Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 No... I own a '71 Super Lead (which is sorta close to a Plexi) and have owned a TSL100 and played DSL100's and 2203 up the ying-yang. They sound quite different from a Plexi or what most people consider to be a Plexi tone. The 2203, DSL's, TSL's are tighter and more aggressive. They have more gain and have a master volume. Even if you install a PPIMV on an old non-MV Marshall, they still sound different. They're grittier and very organic sounding (I hate that term, but it fits). I have a clip of my Super Lead in another thread. It will give you some idea of what a Plexi sounds like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vlad Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Oh yeah... I really like both the TSL and DSL's. I think they're both great-sounding amps. Just need to put different preamp tubes in it, be mindful of the speakers you use and check the bias. Great amps IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gooma Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 This is just my obsevation having owned both a dsl, tsl and currently have a plexi. I`d take the plexi anyday, i nearly gave up on marshalls until i got my plexi. I`m not bashing the DSL or TSL`s either they are just a different beast, you can get close to a plexi tone but cant nail it with these amps IMO. I would highly recomend a PPIMV or a hotplate or something to tame the plexi`s volume tho as they are a non master volume amp.here`s a clip of my bray plexi http://www.davidbrayamps.com/McGill.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Originally posted by Gooma This is just my obsevation having owned both a dsl, tsl and currently have a plexi. I`d take the plexi anyday, i nearly gave up on marshalls until i got my plexi. I`m not bashing the DSL or TSL`s either they are just a different beast, you can get close to a plexi tone but cant nail it with these amps IMO. I would highly recomend a PPIMV or a hotplate or something to tame the plexi`s volume tho as they are a non master volume amp. here`s a clip of my bray plexi http://www.davidbrayamps.com/McGill.mp3 Like I said, the plexi is the more articulate amp of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gulliverseyes Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Great clip Gooma, thanks. Very raw and almost terrifying ... And that's with no distortion pedal, huh? Any "off the shelf" amps that nail this sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gooma Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Originally posted by Gulliverseyes Great clip Gooma, thanks. Very raw and almost terrifying ... And that's with no distortion pedal, huh? Any "off the shelf" amps that nail this sound? Thanks man, thats not me playing tho, thats Dave Bray this is a modded plexi and has a tad more gain than stock. But it gives you a general idea, as Vlad and Rich have said previously, Plexi`s are generally Grittier more organic/raw. Funny thing is i have friends who would take their TSL anyday over my plexi so it all comes down to personal preference:) Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Originally posted by Gooma Thanks man, thats not me playing tho, thats Dave Bray this is a modded plexi and has a tad more gain than stock. But it gives you a general idea, as Vlad and Rich have said previously, Plexi`s are generally Grittier more organic/raw. Funny thing is i have friends who would take their TSL anyday over my plexi so it all comes down to personal preference:) Brad I think maybe some people choose the DSL because it's more of a player friendly amp. I.E. you can hide lots of bad playing in fizzy gain, where as the plexi will showcase your playing, mistakes and all in a BIG way. A plexi forces you to become a cleaner guitar player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vlad Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Originally posted by Gooma Thanks man, thats not me playing tho, thats Dave Bray this is a modded plexi and has a tad more gain than stock. But it gives you a general idea, as Vlad and Rich have said previously, Plexi`s are generally Grittier more organic/raw. Funny thing is i have friends who would take their TSL anyday over my plexi so it all comes down to personal preference:) Brad I posted a comparison clip between my old Super Lead and a friends 2203. Both thru the same cab, boosted with an SD-1. Alot of people liked the 2203 better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gooma Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Originally posted by Rich I think maybe some people choose the DSL because it's more of a player friendly amp. I.E. you can hide lots of bad playing in fizzy gain, where as the plexi will showcase your playing, mistakes and all in a BIG way. A plexi forces you to become a cleaner guitar player. I couldnt agree more rich, i guess you have to really dig in and play a plexi more if that makes any sence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gooma Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Originally posted by vlad I posted a comparison clip between my old Super Lead and a friends 2203. Both thru the same cab, boosted with an SD-1. Alot of people liked the 2203 better. Yes i think i head those clips Vlad, i cant remember which one sounded better to my ears, i havent had the pleasure of playing a 2203. Sounds like a nice amp from what i`ve heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vlad Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Originally posted by Gooma Yes i think i head those clips Vlad, i cant remember which one sounded better to my ears, i havent had the pleasure of playing a 2203. Sounds like a nice amp from what i`ve heard. I really liked both amps... They both brought something different to the table. I couldn't pick one that I liked better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pigsinzen Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Plexis are nice for some old blues sounds and classic rock. The latter if you have a boost pedal. They do sound great. But not my cup of tea. I'd rather have a higher gain Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cloudnine Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Gooma stop posting that clip But seriously if you still want to sell it w/ the Orange give me a shout when/if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 Originally posted by Pigsinzen Plexis are nice for some old blues sounds and classic rock. The latter if you have a boost pedal. They do sound great. But not my cup of tea. I'd rather have a higher gain Marshall. Have you ever played a high gain plexi? You might change your mind. I played a Reinhardt Jester that kicked the absolute crap out of lots of other high gain amps. It's a point to point wired amp with all kinds of filtering and other tricks to maintain articlulation and note clarity along with the added gain. Here's the link: www.reinhardtamps.com They are not inexpensive knock-offs, and are built out of the finest compnents, voiced to your tastes. Reinhardt even uses NOS tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ono Posted October 1, 2005 Members Share Posted October 1, 2005 dsl vs. plexi/ not even in the same county state country whatever oh yeah {censored} you mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kelly Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 Personally I prefer the Hendrix/ Van Halen/ Eric Johnson tone of the plexi to the Zakk Wylde/ newer Jeff Beck sound of the DSL, although you can use the DSL in the house. Played a TSL at a gig once and didn't really like it. Sounded like a JCM900 with more bass, and wasn't loud enough to cut through the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gtrwiz Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 I suggest you look into a plexi clone, I got a Sewell Texaplex a couple of months back, it just totally kicks ass. http://www.sewellamps.com/texaplex.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadRonald Posted October 2, 2005 Members Share Posted October 2, 2005 My DSL100 is for sale. I've got a cool Marshall head case to go with it.I've been meaning to put it on Ebay, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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