Members Tisca Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by dogmikael European made: Framus Cobra 1430 new Framus Dragon 1400 new Engl Powerball 1200 used, 1600 new Engl Savage 1100 used Engl SE 2000 used Engl Fireball 700 used Diezel Herbert 2800/3000? new Diezel Vh4 2500 new Brunetti XL 700 used Brunetti 059 1000 used Laney GH100/50 400/500 used Laney Vh100 R 600 used Who sells Cobras for 1430 and where have you seen used ENGL SEs for 2000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BjornAgain Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by dogmikael Engl Savage 1100 used Engl SE 2000 used Where did you find those prices??? :eek: The SE is just a little more then I paid for my Savage 120 and those have been going for around 1300 on Ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members michal888 Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bumble Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 BTW - might as well add Masotti to the list, so here it goes...Masotti X100M - 2500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sick Michael Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 Someone in Europe could buy my Engl Savage 120 for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dann'sTheMan Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by dogmikael European made: Framus Cobra 1430 new Framus Dragon 1400 new Engl Powerball 1200 used, 1600 new Engl Savage 1100 used Engl SE 2000 used Engl Fireball 700 used Diezel Herbert 2800/3000? new Diezel Vh4 2500 new Brunetti XL 700 used Brunetti 059 1000 used Laney GH100/50 400/500 used Laney Vh100 R 600 used USA made (much more $$$): Mesa Dual Recto 2200 new 1600 used VHT Pittbull CL 2200 new 1500 used VHT UL 3600 new 1800 used???? Bogner Ubershall ????$$$$$$ Peavey 5150 600/700 used The "price" is just to give an idea of how much the things change if you are on the other side of the ocean... I think all Europeans face the same dilemma - I certainly did when I was amp shopping not so long ago. It's certainly wise to try as many of the European brands as you can, as they will likely represent better value for money. They're all voiced differently too, some going for a more British voicing, some for a more American sound.In the end, however, I believe you just have to go with the voicing that you fall in love with, and if it happens to be an American amp, then hang the cost. This is what happened to me when I became smitten with the voicing of the Mesa F-50 (I was prepared to shell out for a new Mark IV). I could torture myself with how much the F-series costs across the pond, but I choose to revel in finding the amp that produces the sounds I have in my head. Oh, and consoling myself that many affordable amps here in Europe are often treated as hallowed "boutique" items in the Americas. Other European amps that imho are worth adding to your list are Koch, Hughes & Kettner, Cornford and of course Marshall. On the American side, Peaveys and Riveras are quite affordable over here - don't overlook the Knucklehead, Bonehead, JSX and Ultra amps. Don't overlook other used Mesa amps either (Mark III, IV, DC series etc.). Best wishes in your search. Big smiles,Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alex Flouros Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 hey...Myron Stratis is selling his dead mint Bogner Uberschall for the killer price of 2000euros...i've played the amp and its amazing....if i remember correctly its the last revision (blue) and only 4-5 months old..and of course you know these can't be found in Europe used often and at this price...do a search on his name and you'll find a thread about the bogner...AlexBTW...if you wont get this the by a Diezel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C-4 Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 I bought Diezels here in the US, and I'd buy them again if I was in Europe.There are many good amps out there, but every sound I want to hear has been given to me on a silver platter by Diezel and Duesentrieb amps. I'm not about to change now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Digital Jams Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 If I was in Europe I would be pounding on Peter Diezel's freaking door yelling let me in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C-4 Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by Digital Jams If I was in Europe I would be pounding on Peter Diezel's freaking door yelling let me in Wait for me, I'll help you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jezuz Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 WAIT! Check out the Ashdown Fallen Angel 60 Head. Its only 666 euros and that amp kicks azz!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BOOGIE666 Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 if I could get a fireball for $700 it would be a no brainer for me just for pure bang for the buck goodness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Craigy Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 The Brunetti's look so nice and if im right Aborted use them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rufus Leaking Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 I'd be looking hard at the Cornford RK100... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 Originally posted by shredhead666 Engl SE. Hands down. Not even a question. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nik Posted January 18, 2006 Members Share Posted January 18, 2006 I'm in Europe (or the UK at least) and here's a curve ball:Used Marshall 6100LM 30th Anniversary series, orVox AD120VTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dogmikael Posted January 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 Originally posted by BjornAgain Where did you find those prices??? :eek: The SE is just a little more then I paid for my Savage 120 and those have been going for around 1300 on Ebay. I was talking about the engl savage E 610and the engl special edition E670 (NOT THE SAVAGE SE)from what i know the E670 goes for a much higher price than the E610I really like the SE, from what i heard from the clips on derekB website.Ah, there are 2 shops in italy selling the cobra for 1430/1499 eur new. I was really considering the cobra, just need somebody to buy my amp NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pan Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 Originally posted by Tisca Who sells Cobras for 1430 and where have you seen used ENGL SEs for 2000? I bought my Cobra w/footswitch for 1430 eur in Italy-essemusic. I think this is a great price for a new Cobra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SuperSoundMusic Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 What about the Hughes & Kettner Amps? They make amazing High Gain amps and I was under the impression that they could be picked up in Europe and the UK for more reasonable prices than we can get them for here in the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr Wanker Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 I'd be looking for a Steavens Poundcake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Duesentrieb Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 Originally posted by Dr Wanker I'd be looking for a Steavens Poundcake. Not made anymore.I'd go with the Diezels of course, but I'm biased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LaXu Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 Originally posted by SuperSoundMusic What about the Hughes & Kettner Amps? They make amazing High Gain amps and I was under the impression that they could be picked up in Europe and the UK for more reasonable prices than we can get them for here in the USA. They are still pretty expensive, the Triamp MkII goes for about 2500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members edgecrusher Posted January 26, 2006 Members Share Posted January 26, 2006 I'm in Europe and I have a VHT Ultralead and a Bogner Uberschall......My next amp might be a Diezel ! Hehe...In a couple of years or so ! Cheers !Joe D.Belgium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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