Members Electric Glide Posted April 10, 2006 Members Share Posted April 10, 2006 Originally posted by bibleboy3 BTW, if anybody is looking for a plexi clone contact me .. I will taylor it to your specs.Bill You know a good dentist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ed DeGenaro Posted April 10, 2006 Members Share Posted April 10, 2006 100 watt JTM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carlygtr56 Posted April 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 10, 2006 Originally posted by maz_master Carl,The link's not working for me.Dave I took it down! A while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carlygtr56 Posted April 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted April 10, 2006 Originally posted by Ed DeGenaro 100 watt JTM. JTM 45/100? I got footage of him using those amps in '67.I had the Germino Monterey-100, which was a clone. Best for the earliest Jimi/Cream tones. Dark and bassy. The '69 Little Wing clip isn't that sound, IMO. More likely a '68 Superlead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stratotone Posted April 10, 2006 Members Share Posted April 10, 2006 Originally posted by bibleboy3 Well if you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Electric Glide Posted April 10, 2006 Members Share Posted April 10, 2006 Originally posted by Tatosh I mean, honestly, that tone is quite Fenderish. You don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Electric Glide Posted April 10, 2006 Members Share Posted April 10, 2006 Originally posted by Stratotone Someone take him up on this. I could use a good laugh. Just don't turn it on inside your house near anything flammable, and use a stick to flick the on/off switch. Pete Pete, your sig is hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReneSteur Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 i regret my previous posts with my 1959HW on 10 rolled back, so close that i can't really hear some difference. however i find the guitar you use really important as well as the speakers you use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members david@legendarytones.com Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 IMO, there are too many variables on a recording. But thinking about Hendrix, with his pickup configuration that adds extra highs on his top three strings because he's playing upside down, coupled with the fact that he prefered G12H-30s (much brighter speakers), and also tended to prefer KT's or 6550's with more headroom, I don't think it's a stretch to think that his Marshall could sound like a Fender. As for one of the original posts who couldn't get the sound with any variety of Marshall they tried, play with different speaker cabinets. It's a huge difference and sometimes people focus too much on the heads IMO - they modify this and that or alter this and that, where the solution could have been just getting the appropriate speaker cab for them. There is a BIG difference between a G12M-25, G12H-30, and G12T-75. Those will shape your tone a LOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tatosh Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by david@legendarytones.com IMO, there are too many variables on a recording. But thinking about Hendrix, with his pickup configuration that adds extra highs on his top three strings because he's playing upside down, coupled with the fact that he prefered G12H-30s (much brighter speakers), and also tended to prefer KT's or 6550's with more headroom, I don't think it's a stretch to think that his Marshall could sound like a Fender. As for one of the original posts who couldn't get the sound with any variety of Marshall they tried, play with different speaker cabinets. It's a huge difference and sometimes people focus too much on the heads IMO - they modify this and that or alter this and that, where the solution could have been just getting the appropriate speaker cab for them. There is a BIG difference between a G12M-25, G12H-30, and G12T-75. Those will shape your tone a LOT. This is quite good advice. Just the other day I noticed that my 69 Superbass sounds quite close to this recording with my Strat and a 4x12 with g12H30 on it. Like a bigger, badder fender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Negative K3 fan Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by david@legendarytones.com play with different speaker cabinets. It's a huge difference and sometimes people focus too much on the heads IMO - they modify this and that or alter this and that, where the solution could have been just getting the appropriate speaker cab for them. There is a BIG difference between a G12M-25, G12H-30, and G12T-75. Those will shape your tone a LOT and its also true that different cabs with the same speakers can make a bigger difference than the same cab with different speakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReneSteur Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 yep i first had the 1959hw with a bogner v30 cab, it didn't sound ok. i first thought it had to be the guitar, but then i got a marshall plexi cab with g12h30. the sound was right now. also, i got two strats and they sound nowhere near the same. so experimentation is required finding your ultimate tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JimAnsell Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 its funny how different all the different plexi clones are from each other. they doesn't exactly make them "Clones" then, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Knut E Evenmo Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 Originally posted by JimAnsell its funny how different all the different plexi clones are from each other. they doesn't exactly make them "Clones" then, does it? But from what I understand, many of the old plexis didn`t sound similar to each other either? (I haven`t played many old Marshalls, this is info I`ve read around) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReneSteur Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 it as well can be the guitar / speakers / cabinet constuction / playing style / room/ or even guitar cables that makes the difference there are too many variables =Deven plectrums can!im not an advanced player but i heared the difference between cheaper cables and good cables if my amp is turned up loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members glogulus Posted May 4, 2006 Members Share Posted May 4, 2006 I am grateful to you Carl for posting that jimi stuff on youtube . Thank you!I hope your quest to find that clean/dirty tone works out. I've been looking for that same clean/dirty sound for a long time. It's damn hard to find.Let me know when you find it . Because I will be right there with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReneSteur Posted September 22, 2006 Members Share Posted September 22, 2006 after some more listening to various bootlegs and studying the different marshall amplifiers, i must say i go with the jtm45/100 with kt66 tubes. that could explain why many think the tone is quite fenderish. i find the tone very much the same as the recording: little wing, paris 68. but i always thought jimi would use these with the tall base cabinet? on stage are the regular cabs, that made me thinking it had to be el34 amps, so that's what make me unsure. so i wonder what speakers he would have been using here. also this concert was 24, feb, 1969. i wonder when exactly he made the change to el34's. I know it are the characteristics of the kt66 tubes i like. But i like a El34 superlead as well. i dislike though when jimi uses a fuzz on his neck with concert for rythm playing, a bit too dark for my taste for some passages like purple haze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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