Members augerinn Posted November 18, 2009 Members Share Posted November 18, 2009 Kickass Bells.....oxymoron? My thoughts, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted November 18, 2009 Members Share Posted November 18, 2009 The problem with bells is that in order for them to be "kick-ass", they have to have a lot of non-harmonic overtones, which renders them useless for melodies. The more you strip away those overtones, though, the whimpier they sound. IMHO, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted November 18, 2009 Members Share Posted November 18, 2009 No... thats a church bell. Listen to the whole demo--it changes (sometimes radically). And, yes, EP, it's the bell preset from Pianoteq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thorhead Posted November 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 18, 2009 Kickass Bells.....oxymoron? Some bells color heavy music nicely, like black metal and stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members augerinn Posted November 18, 2009 Members Share Posted November 18, 2009 Some bells color heavy music nicely, like black metal and stuff... Well, I kinda agree. Ozzies Revelation/Mother Earth has some cool bells. But they're church bell bells. Big, dark, cracked, church bells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tusks Posted November 19, 2009 Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 On your sonic cell ... pick a structure that has ring modulation in it (structures 5 through 10)... 1) For tone 1 pick a bell or struck sound. 2) For tone 2 pick a single cycle synth sound (probably start with sine or triangle, then expand to brighter waveforms). 3) Make sure you pitch the bell 1 , 1.5 2, 2.5 or 3 octaves above the single cycle waveform. (you can also invert these relationship for certain structures) You should start hearing a bell like quality that is similar to the original bell sound but a tad livelier. 4) Now play with the relative pitch of the two sounds to get more dissonance. Or sweep the pitch of one of the sounds for real snarl. Play with the following parameters to get the type of bell you want. a) brightness/attack character of samples selectedb) consonance of tuning intervalsc) pitch sweeps (optional... start by applying to only one tone)d) resonant filter sweeps (optional... start by applying to only one tone)e) add more attack or sustain layers with tones 3&4 (optional) Do all this and you'll be a synthesist my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thorhead Posted November 19, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 On your sonic cell ... pick a structure that has ring modulation in it (structures 5 through 10)... 1) For tone 1 pick a bell or struck sound. 2) For tone 2 pick a single cycle synth sound (probably start with sine or triangle, then expand to brighter waveforms). 3) Make sure you pitch the bell 1 , 1.5 2, 2.5 or 3 octaves above the single cycle waveform. (you can also invert these relationship for certain structures) You should start hearing a bell like quality that is similar to the original bell sound but a tad livelier. 4) Now play with the relative pitch of the two sounds to get more dissonance. Or sweep the pitch of one of the sounds for real snarl. Play with the following parameters to get the type of bell you want. a) brightness/attack character of samples selected b) consonance of tuning intervals c) pitch sweeps (optional... start by applying to only one tone) d) resonant filter sweeps (optional... start by applying to only one tone) e) add more attack or sustain layers with tones 3&4 (optional) Do all this and you'll be a synthesist my friend. Thanks... very good. I will try this Though I dont remember seeing "brightness" anywhere, do you mean just EQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jercat Posted November 19, 2009 Members Share Posted November 19, 2009 Some bells color heavy music nicely, like black metal and stuff... Yeah....they do...but melodic metal would also be an oxymoron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thorhead Posted November 21, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 21, 2009 Yeah....they do...but melodic metal would also be an oxymoron. No and NO. Nice try though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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