Members chief04 Posted August 29, 2006 Members Share Posted August 29, 2006 Hey, Anybody know how to take the front grill of a bogner cab?? I have an uber cab that i am trying to get to grips recording but the grill cloth is pretty thick and it is pretty hard to see through, so I want to take the cloth of to dick about with some mic placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Purplexi Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 No,no,no.You must be rcording in a private environment? No self respecting studio engineer would remove that cloth.First off,it's only going to reveal sibilant,high end harshness.All guitar amps,save for maybe an Orange AD140(Orange users,forgive me here) lack treble and not even that amp so much.The cloth is permanently fastened like most guitar cabs with the possilble exception of Mesa Boogie's mid/late 80's cabs.That grillcloth is there to smooth out the mid and high frequency harshness,not so your mom will think it looks pretty.If you're recording you can dial in a ton of upper and lower tones that you could never get from an amp live.I'm sorry to take a hard line here but you need some schooling on this one.Move the mic around,experiment with your EQ and level settings.Good luck with your music recording! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AtillaTheHungry Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 The whole point of taking the grill cloth off is that you can better position mics. Some engineers CUT THE CLOTH if they can't get it off. I don't know what you are talking about saying no one would remove it. I can't imagine it has much effect on the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vendor Defendor Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 Just out of curiousity instead of cutting it if you take a flashlight and shine right up against it you can't see in? It worked with my marshall when I had it and I can do the same thing to the cab I built... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Megadeth7684 Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 The flashlight thing doesn't work on Bogner cabs. The one with the wheat grill is even harder to see through. chief, I believe the grill cloth is screwed on from the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members '63-Strat Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 Originally posted by Megadeth7684 The flashlight thing doesn't work on Bogner cabs. The one with the wheat grill is even harder to see through. chief, I believe the grill cloth is screwed on from the inside. Yes, it does work, and I've done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Megadeth7684 Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 Originally posted by '63-Strat Yes, it does work, and I've done it. Doesn't work for me. I can't see through the damn thing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Red&Die Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 Bogner cab is fxxking strong, I even can't open the black plate when I thinking to swap the speaker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members '63-Strat Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 Originally posted by Megadeth7684 Doesn't work for me. I can't see through the damn thing at all. Yeah, but you wear glasses, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jaeger28 Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 I think the cloth is to disperse the sound and to dampen the ugly frequencies. Not sure if there will be a big impact on a close mike and high volume, but you will hear a difference with a room mike as the sound waves get spread less equally without a cloth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gaindrain Posted August 30, 2006 Members Share Posted August 30, 2006 Originally posted by Purplexi No,no,no.You must be rcording in a private environment? No self respecting studio engineer would remove that cloth.First off,it's only going to reveal sibilant,high end harshness.All guitar amps,save for maybe an Orange AD140(Orange users,forgive me here) lack treble and not even that amp so much.The cloth is permanently fastened like most guitar cabs with the possilble exception of Mesa Boogie's mid/late 80's cabs.That grillcloth is there to smooth out the mid and high frequency harshness,not so your mom will think it looks pretty.If you're recording you can dial in a ton of upper and lower tones that you could never get from an amp live.I'm sorry to take a hard line here but you need some schooling on this one.Move the mic around,experiment with your EQ and level settings.Good luck with your music recording! I don't know dude, I've seen engineers do it dozens of times. The newer Diezel 4*12's have a grill that can be removed. The grill's attached with some velcro dealy. Must be there for a reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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