Members Plink Floyd Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xpander Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 i just know if she really flanked her setup with 3' jugs of water, it couldn't possibly be a bad show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Those are for the 'Flashdance' number... Srsly though, Carbon, the piano sound is excellent to my ear. /fwiw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Gosh Doug, that's awfully nice of you. ...but I haven't recorded MIDI for about 15 years. Don't really have any use for it other than rhythm sync. Ah well. Here's a noodle on Pianoteq. Starts similarly to yours then wanders. I'm trying here to emphasise its very responsive resonance. This is my standard patch, which has no reverb but it's in Werkmeister III temperament. noodle Bottom line is that fake pianos are getting better and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Relevant thread: http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120907 Yep, AK doesn't behave like a real piano does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -groovatious- Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Relevant thread: http://www.native-instruments.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120907 Yep, AK doesn't behave like a real piano does. Well it SOUNDS a hell of a lot more like a real piano than Pianoteq's synthy concoction - and I find it plays just as well as pianoteq (IMO - of which there are many, especially when it comes to pianos) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members evildragon Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 It definitely doesn't have the same playing nuances brought out as Pianoteq. I won't even challenge the "synthy concoction" adjective, that stuff ended with Pianoteq 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carbon111 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Ah well. Here's a noodle on Pianoteq. Starts similarly to yours then wanders. I'm trying here to emphasise its very responsive resonance. This is my standard patch, which has no reverb but it's in Werkmeister III temperament.noodle. Thanks! I mostly like it...but there is definitely a weird inharmonic/metallic aspect to the hammer sound throughout that is very "unpianolike" and ultimately spoils it for me. Can the sound of the hammer strike be tweaked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 There's hammer noise that can be adjusted and also hammer hardness. I actually like that metallic thing at the highest velocities--it's what my upright sounds like when I really hammer it. Here's the same noodle tamed a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carbon111 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 Much nicer! ...still something kind of odd-sounding about it (kind of "bromp-ish"). Wouldn't hesitate for a moment to use that in a mix with other instruments though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members gregwar Posted October 27, 2010 Members Share Posted October 27, 2010 here's an example i recorded a little while ago to showcase alicia's keys in a review at sc: http://tinyurl.com/2vp6u6y about macbook pro's i set the buffer in logic to 128 and turned off "sympathetic resonances" in alicia's keys settings. this seems to be the best settings i've found for smooth playing. i guess there is the odd cpu spike tho so for live use might not be totally bullet proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zzzxtreme Posted October 28, 2010 Members Share Posted October 28, 2010 -groovatious- yeah pianoteq does sound synthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members psionic11 Posted October 28, 2010 Members Share Posted October 28, 2010 I like piano comparison threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keybdwizrd Posted October 28, 2010 Members Share Posted October 28, 2010 This thread provoked me to load up NI's New York Grand and play it for quite a while. Really, very nice for a softie, especially at I then loaded up several the monstrous "German Grand" samples that come with MachFive 2. I had previously been quite enamored with these. Now, not so much. I just spent a half hour playing the 128 MB "Stereo Grand 4-Way" piano that now comes with the Korg M3 Expanded models. I have to say that (for my ears at least) hardware still trumps software. And the grand piano I played yesterday in the new Motif XF may be even a bit more to my taste than that in the M3. I really, really want to embrace software instruments. Maybe I need to invest in something like Synthogy's Ivory or the Quantum Leap pianos (and get another disk drive while I'm at it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gregwar Posted October 28, 2010 Members Share Posted October 28, 2010 @keybdwizrdone thing that seems to make a difference is investing in converters. hardware gives u the sound of their converters and a mysterious process with dynamics that seems to sound better especially while ur playing a synth. i invested in apogee converters a few years ago and that seems to have payed dividends. it sounds really different to my ears even with headphones compared to the regular outputs on my laptop. in a blind test i wouldn't be able to tell which is which but at least psychologically it seems to be more clear sounding. plus i think there's an msg stage at the very end for many digital synth manufacturers like access, korg, etc that give their synths certain eq boosts and compression/limiting just before the output. at least with these effects on the master bus in logic i can approximate the sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted October 28, 2010 Members Share Posted October 28, 2010 ...msg stage... Hai, gregwar! What is this msg stage of which you speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -groovatious- Posted October 28, 2010 Members Share Posted October 28, 2010 Monosodium Glutamate. Making your dumplings taste better and your synths sound better since 1909. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted October 28, 2010 Members Share Posted October 28, 2010 Ah. Do not want, gives me a headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JohnBenussi Posted October 29, 2010 Members Share Posted October 29, 2010 This thread provoked me to load up NI's New York Grand and play it for quite a while. Really, very nice for a softie, especially at I then loaded up several the monstrous "German Grand" samples that come with MachFive 2. I had previously been quite enamored with these. Now, not so much.I just spent a half hour playing the 128 MB "Stereo Grand 4-Way" piano that now comes with the Korg M3 Expanded models. I have to say that (for my ears at least) hardware still trumps software. And the grand piano I played yesterday in the new Motif XF may be even a bit more to my taste than that in the M3.I really, really want to embrace software instruments. Maybe I need to invest in something like Synthogy's Ivory or the Quantum Leap pianos (and get another disk drive while I'm at it). I used to be a huge hardware synth proponent...That is until I bought EWQL Pianos (24bit) Edition. It's probably the worst resource hog of both CPU and RAM usageand for a while it *was* my go to piano library.... Enter Alicia's Keys.What this piano brings to the table is a dynamic soundthat has its own character...it also sounds beautiful *dry*without any sort of reverb (that most Piano VSTi's) use oreven require. Quantum Leap pianos can never be said to be dryeven without the Convo reverb and even with say the close mic position. The thing with VSTi's that I've encountered: it's all programmingand Mr Scarbee has got to be the leading expert on this subject? Well, I can tell you guys that I'd rather play AK's than QL Pianos.In fact my QL library seems almost useless since. (I still like the Bosi) What I want to get is VSL's Bosi because I've heardwhat it can do and it blew me away. ***On a side note, here: -http://www.acousticsamples.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=&products_id=29 I'm hoping to get this one when I get the funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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