Members Kyle DiSanto Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 The Decimator Kills the NS-2. Here is my signal chain: Guitar ->Maxon OD 808 -> Decimator -> Amp Or the same, with the Maxon in the Ns-2's loop and then normally chained. Then straight into the amp, no pedals...and then back to the decimator setup. The decimator not only cuts down the noise levels...AT All Times, but the sound was also noticeably tighter as well as clearer, compared to the ns-2. The NS-2 sounded looser in the low end dept....more "flubby" and it also had more noise when I was playing. I used an NS-2 for several years before I got a Decimator about 1.5 years ago from Derekb. I have never looked back, and used the ns-2 very seldom with my smaller "B" rig for smaller/crappy gigs where I didn't want to lug my Cobra and Effects Rack. FWIW, I do not play metal all the time anymore, In Fact I am more into straight up Hard Rock/Industrial/Experimental and everything to Jazz, Power-POP, to Hip-Hop, what ever....So if there is anyone out there who thinks this pedal is just for Metal or the more aggressive styles, do not fear! It is a great pedal which works well for all styles. PEACE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neemo Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'm thinking about getting meself a decimator pro rack g, definately seems the right way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Strapping_Young_Lad Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 the decimator must have some kind of crazy buffer, it boosts my signal noticeably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members saxxamafone Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 +1 former ns-2 player here isp doesn't change u're tone at all from what i can tell very nice working gate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members thefyn Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Have you tried it in the loop? You get dead silence that way. In front you still hear the amp hiss a little when in high gain mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kyle DiSanto Posted November 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by thefyn Have you tried it in the loop? You get dead silence that way. In front you still hear the amp hiss a little when in high gain mode. Which pedal? THe ns-2? The cobra's loop doesn't take well to pedals in its stock form, so i can't try that unfortunately. I have never been a fan of gates in the loop though. Did it with my old 5150 several times and just couldn't get a sound I was looking for - not nocking it, just not for me. With that said, in front of an amp, the decimator wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sordid1 Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 it's been a long time since I tried a NS-2 but the Decimator is so much better than the Hush or the MXR line drivergate it's not even funny. Easily the best gate I have ever used and I hear the rack version is even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 @ROTINPAIN: did you compare them in terms of stopping feedback? eventhough i tried a lot of things i still have feedback problems with my cobra even on lower volumes. (eg on the lead with gain:1.30 chanvol: 2, master: 8.30, effect mix: 12, bass: 11, deep: 9, all others on 12 its already sqealing with my guitar vol dimed) i got an ns-2 (best i can get in germany) and it just didnt kill the feedback. it seemed to me that the feedback built up to quickly for the ns-2 to step in. so i sent the ns-2 back and i really wanna try a decimator but i'd have to import it so i wanna be sure if it would do the job better before spending the $. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sordid1 Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by monkeysuit @ROTINPAIN: did you compare them in terms of stopping feedback?eventhough i tried a lot of things i still have feedback problems with my cobra even on lower volumes. (eg on the lead with gain:1.30 chanvol: 2, master: 8.30, effect mix: 12, bass: 11, deep: 9, all others on 12 its already sqealing with my guitar vol dimed)i got an ns-2 (best i can get in germany) and it just didnt kill the feedback. it seemed to me that the feedback built up to quickly for the ns-2 to step in.so i sent the ns-2 back and i really wanna try a decimator but i'd have to import it so i wanna be sure if it would do the job better before spending the $. That's why I bought mine and it does a great job with it. At about half way up or a little shy of that I get no feedback at all and it's plenty quiet for a band setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kyle DiSanto Posted November 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by Sordid1 That's why I bought mine and it does a great job with it. At about half way up or a little shy of that I get no feedback at all and it's plenty quiet for a band setting. I would agree with this statement for your question monkeysuit. I have also found that if you are running hot and/or noisy pickups, such will contribute to the squealing as well. Bottom, line, the decimator simply does the job better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 well i'm usually running an emg81 which is hot but not noisy. i tried to set it as far away from the strings as possible so it was lower than the pickup frame and it still feedbacked. same with the passive humbucker in my peavey tracer. i'm just gonna give the isp a try. if it doesnt work out i can most likely sell it in germany without losing any money.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 question. i've started to get into single coil guitars and am now looking at noise suppressors. do you find that it reduces the 60 cycle hum considerably at all times? also, has anybody tried (or even seen) the new EHX noise suppressor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kyle DiSanto Posted November 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by monkeysuit well i'm usually running an emg81 which is hot but not noisy.i tried to set it as far away from the strings as possible so it was lower than the pickup frame and it still feedbacked. same with the passive humbucker in my peavey tracer.i'm just gonna give the isp a try. if it doesnt work out i can most likely sell it in germany without losing any money.... Give it a try man. Once you find the sweet spot on the pedal(only one knob lol, so its not hard at all!) you will be in love. Also, why not do a micro phonic test, to see if any of your tubes are causing the squealing. My jackson has the 81/85 setup and I run an maxon boost before the gate and I really don't find squealing to be much of a problem. Help!I'maRock!: The decimator kills more noise than the ns-2 without sacrificing tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by ROTINPAIN Give it a try man. Once you find the sweet spot on the pedal(only one knob lol, so its not hard at all!) you will be in love.Also, why not do a micro phonic test, to see if any of your tubes are causing the squealing. My jackson has the 81/85 setup and I run an maxon boost before the gate and I really don't find squealing to be much of a problem. already did, tubes are all good (all stock eh) think i just like to play with too much gain. when i reduce the gain to 1.30 on the crunch i can play at band volume without squealing but its not the sound i want. it sounds good when playing chords but especially on single note palm mutes it sounds too weak for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sordid1 Posted November 20, 2006 Members Share Posted November 20, 2006 Originally posted by monkeysuit already did, tubes are all good (all stock eh) think i just like to play with too much gain. when i reduce the gain to 1.30 on the crunch i can play at band volume without squealing but its not the sound i want. it sounds good when playing chords but especially on single note palm mutes it sounds too weak for me. Well this should kill whatever feedback you have going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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