Members mightyjoeyoungxnj Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 This guitar is very appealing to me, but I have a couple issues with it: Alder body. I wish it was a mahogany body, although I have never owned Alder. Does it sound thin in comparison w/ mahogany?? I'm talking D standard or C# rhythm tones for this. I want a thick chunky sound. And upper fret access. From the pics it looks like upper fret access might be a bit restricted. I hope it's not as bad as my '87 RG550. That thing is a bitch to access the upper frets. -Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fistacuffs Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 I have a 25th aniversary esp mIII. M2 with a single coil in the middle. It is one of those guitars that I could never sell. Alder is bright but that will just help it cut in the mix. with emg 81's it really gives it a kirk hammet, metalica vibe. It's not his sig model but it is no wonder he chose it. It is better playing and feeling than the jem I have. with the new price drop at esp you cant lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhenson42 Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 Check out a Horizon NT II if you want mahogany. I have one and I love it. If you need a floyd rose, you can get a Horizon FR (import from Japan). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Guapo Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 I had one for 1 month. Sold it due to money problems, I regret selling it. The neck was butter, the fret acces was great. ESP shaves some of the heel joint so it isn't as clunky. The damn thing nearly played itself. It also sounded pretty damn full and thick for being an alder bodied guitar. I was surprised by this especially having a smaller body (with floyd rose) than my strat.I don't think you can go wrong with it IMO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members psychodave Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 Killer guitars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 Killer guitars....really. Edit: SOOOO much better than the RG550. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members monkeysuit Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 MII is my dream guitar, only i'd prefer one with rosewood fretboard.i played one in a music store a week ago and it was just plain perfect. ok it was a bit brighter than the eclipse ive played but in no way thin.in germany they are far out of my reach even used. what do these guitars go for used in the states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 I have a purple M III...alder body, maple neck..JB in the bridge....love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bunghole Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 I'd personally like a Horizon III. Those are so cool looking But an MII with maple board seems pretty kickass too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mattleesc Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 im thinking alder will give you a clearer tighter sound when tuning down. you can always change pickups to get a warmer, darker tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bob the dentist Posted March 18, 2007 Members Share Posted March 18, 2007 im thinking alder will give you a clearer tighter sound when tuning down. you can always change pickups to get a warmer, darker tone.this is correct.Alder in C = Mahogany in EAlder in E = what the {censored} is wrong with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mightyjoeyoungxnj Posted March 19, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Cool thanks guys...I wanna check one out, but they are hard to come by around here. I would love a NT-II, but I'm looking for an all black axe right now. I really have no clue why they don't offer that one in more colors here in the US. -Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhenson42 Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 How about this one. It is black and mahogany. Quite bad ass too.CLICK HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mightyjoeyoungxnj Posted March 19, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 How about this one. It is black and mahogany. Quite bad ass too. CLICK HERE Hehehe, another one on my list man. I dig Caparisons for sure, I used to own a Walnut Horus. Only bad part is the wait time when ordering from Japan. Then again I don't have the $$ right now for it, so that's also possible.-Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhenson42 Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Hehehe, another one on my list man. I dig Caparisons for sure, I used to own a Walnut Horus. Only bad part is the wait time when ordering from Japan. Then again I don't have the $$ right now for it, so that's also possible. -Joe CLICK HERE They have it here. Translates to about $1365 before shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mightyjoeyoungxnj Posted March 19, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 CLICK HERE They have it here. Translates to about $1365 before shipping. Nice! I would probably opt for the regular dellinger II in the red color. I'm not really a fan of flat black finishes. Man, finding the perfect guitar is hard!-Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhenson42 Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Man, finding the perfect guitar is hard! -Joe Tell me about it. I've got about $3,500 to spend right now. The two guitars that I want most other than maybe going custom are the ESP M-1 and the Caparison pictured above - but with the fixed bridge. Neither are readily available.I have an alder Jackson SL2HT. I like the guitar alot and it is not that bright at all. I just prefer mahogany as well so I think I'm going to sell it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mightyjoeyoungxnj Posted March 19, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Tell me about it. I've got about $3,500 to spend right now. The two guitars that I want most other than maybe going custom are the ESP M-1 and the Caparison pictured above - but with the fixed bridge. Neither are readily available. I have an alder Jackson SL2HT. I like the guitar alot and it is not that bright at all. I just prefer mahogany as well so I think I'm going to sell it too. I hear you bro...I'm sick of being half happy with my purchases, so the next one I make will be a keeper.-Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BAZGUITARMAN Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I don`t think you can go wrong with any of the ESP M-series guitars. I`m not big on maple fretboards, but if I was I would definitaly go for that M-II. I actually have already ordered one of the new M 1`s that Matt mentioned. It should be in soon. I hope. I`ll post up and let you know how the alder body works with the 81 in the bridge. As far as alder being too bright. Well, I think that is bull{censored}. IMO, that`s one of the least true internet facts that there is. Just think about the thousands and thousands of metal and hard rock songs that feature guitars with an alder body. Look at all of the pro artists that use Jackson USA models. Almost all of those guitars are alder bodies with maple necks and they don`t sound thin. I think alder is a pretty well balanced tone wood. It doesn`t have the big soft mid-range that mahogany does, but that keeps it tight. I`ve found alder bodied guitars to have very good bass that doesn`t get muddy with high gain. And the top end has a soft roll off that keeps it from getting harsh and strident. It also has a decent weight to it. Not too heavy and not too light. I would go for it bro. I think you will be pleased. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I don`t think you can go wrong with any of the ESP M-series guitars. I`m not big on maple fretboards, but if I was I would definitaly go for that M-II. I actually have already ordered one of the new M 1`s that Matt mentioned. It should be in soon. I hope. I`ll post up and let you know how the alder body works with the 81 in the bridge.As far as alder being too bright. Well, I think that is bull{censored}. IMO, that`s one of the least true internet facts that there is. Just think about the thousands and thousands of metal and hard rock songs that feature guitars with an alder body. Look at all of the pro artists that use Jackson USA models. Almost all of those guitars are alder bodies with maple necks and they don`t sound thin. I think alder is a pretty well balanced tone wood. It doesn`t have the big soft mid-range that mahogany does, but that keeps it tight. I`ve found alder bodied guitars to have very good bass that doesn`t get muddy with high gain. And the top end has a soft roll off that keeps it from getting harsh and strident. It also has a decent weight to it. Not too heavy and not too light.I would go for it bro. I think you will be pleased.Eric I agree about alder being too bright...I don't think it is either..if anything, it's really balanced...fender's been makin' strats outta alder for years....and well, the proof is in the pudding now innit =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RG550 Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Alder has the greatest "snarl" of any tonewood, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madryan Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 I sold mine to pay for college. I still occasionally cry about it. Custom M-II with EMG's. Get the '85 rather than the '81 if you decide to do EMG's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bunghole Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Check out this ESP Maverick w /maple boardhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ESP-Maverick-electric-guitar_W0QQitemZ150100368745QQcategoryZ33038QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mightyjoeyoungxnj Posted March 19, 2007 Author Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Check out this ESP Maverick w /maple boardhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ESP-Maverick-electric-guitar_W0QQitemZ150100368745QQcategoryZ33038QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Looks nice, is that alder or mahogany? -Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bunghole Posted March 19, 2007 Members Share Posted March 19, 2007 Looks nice, is that alder or mahogany?-Joe don't know.ask the seller a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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