Members bunghole Posted September 3, 2007 Members Share Posted September 3, 2007 thread is worthy of bumpage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members telephant Posted September 5, 2007 Members Share Posted September 5, 2007 Everytime I put on Master of Puppets, I think, "If they had just turned the mid knob 3 or 4 notches to the right, it would sound 10000000000000000 times better." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeathMonkey Posted September 5, 2007 Members Share Posted September 5, 2007 Boosting mids and then taking some of them away is the correct way to use mids in recording. Its like evening everything out and adding more bass and highs without getting muddy or icepicky. Quoted for troof. It is my understanding that the best thing to do is record a good full frequency sound, then cut judiciously afterwards to get out of the way of the vocals and other instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeathMonkey Posted September 5, 2007 Members Share Posted September 5, 2007 I also heard that they cut Jason's bass out because they thought he wasn't very good. What, there's bass on that record???? James has admitted mixing the bass low (as in non-existent) because Jason was the new guy, and they were all pissed at him for not being Cliff. They wouldn't have hired him if he sucked, and remember Jason played in a signed band before Metallica. I believe Fleming also said that there was so much bass content in the guitars that adding bass ate up too much headroom, and Jaymz0rz would allow him to re-EQ the guitars to allow for more bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members antiochband Posted September 5, 2007 Members Share Posted September 5, 2007 What, there's bass on that record????James has admitted mixing the bass low (as in non-existent) because Jason was the new guy, and they were all pissed at him for not being Cliff. They wouldn't have hired him if he sucked, and remember Jason played in a signed band before Metallica. I believe Fleming also said that there was so much bass content in the guitars that adding bass ate up too much headroom, and Jaymz0rz would allow him to re-EQ the guitars to allow for more bass. LOL, I'd punish him just for being Jason Newsted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 What, there's bass on that record????Sort of. You can hear a tiny bit in Blackened at around the three-minute mark and in the intro to One. {censored}ed if I know where else, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Syn Harvest Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 Jason was a dork fanboy that should have never joined Metallica.He ruined them, its all his fault. Wrong i thought Jason was a pretty good player and doesnt get the credit he desrves. I think what ruined Metallica was when James decided other people could write songs. When he started letting everybody else have alot more say the band went down hill. Also you cant deny what Cliffs death had on the direction of their music. I dont think Cliff ever would have let them get as Pansy ass as they have gotten. These two things are what i believe killed metallica. Oh lets also not forget Kirks hand in bringing down metallica or should i say foot GET OFF THE {censored}ING WAH PEDAL NOOB {censored} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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 Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 I dont think Cliff ever would have let them get as Pansy ass as they have gotten. I understand why people might say this type of thing, and I see it said a lot, but in my opinion, you have to remember that if Cliff was still alive now, he'd have gone through exactly what the band went through without him - within reason of course, I mean, we wouldn't have had the AJFA no bass debacle. He'd be just as rich as the rest of them, perhaps have gotten just as complacent, and here's the kicker for me, he wouldn't still be thinking like he did when he was 24 years old, much like James, Kirk and Lars aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Syn Harvest Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 I understand why people might say this type of thing, and I see it said a lot, but in my opinion, you have to remember that if Cliff was still alive now, he'd have gone through exactly what the band went through without him - within reason of course, I mean, we wouldn't have had the AJFA no bass debacle. He'd be just as rich as the rest of them, perhaps have gotten just as complacent, and here's the kicker for me, he wouldn't still be thinking like he did when he was 24 years old, much like James, Kirk and Lars aren't. I don't think so, if Cliff hadn't died I don't think AJFA would have been as, angry as it is. His death I think really fueled the anger and angst that was on that album. Though if Cliff had lived I think that The Black Album would have been alot better, just from his array of knowledge of harmony and such. Let alone the songs he would have contributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HEPNOTIC Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 who {censored}ing cares? the record is what it is. stop arguing about how knobs were set, guitar geekin' a little too hard here people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HumanFuseBen Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 If Cliff hadn't died, i don't think the band would have ended up with as much mainstream success as they have. I think they would have stayed progressive with mega long songs rather than giving us enter sandman and other bits of radio candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members p4vl Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 If Cliff hadn't died, i don't think the band would have ended up with as much mainstream success as they have. I think they would have stayed progressive with mega long songs rather than giving us enter sandman and other bits of radio candy. I think they'd have been a huge band anyway, but they might've ended up being more musical than they are. I wonder if they knew while they were recording AJFA that they'd be catching hell 20 years later. They should remix it and reissue it as a double-CD set with the original mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dragonsoni Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 I'm not usually one for scooped tones myself, but I've really grown to like how AJFA sounds. It's cold, it's harsh, it's dry as a bone, but those sounds work for those songs. It's not a pleasant sounding album, but it's not supposed to be. The tones and production suit that music perfectly. I totally agree. And its a hard album to play loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PlayboyChris Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 I'm actually rich, but my bank account can't handle such a huge amount of cash, so it seems like I'm broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted September 6, 2007 Members Share Posted September 6, 2007 I'm actually rich, but my bank account can't handle such a huge amount of cash, so it seems like I'm broke.i LOLed:thu:RIP random hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr R Gecko Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I wonder how true this is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sweep? Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I wonder how true this is Nice epic thread bump..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FBird Nation Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 On the gearslutz forum Flemming Rassmussen told that while making AJFA he had arguments with the band and that Jaymz-ARGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAH decided to make guitars a bit scooped and bass heavy, so, that was intentionally done by scooping and not some crazy abbra-cadabbra like your friend says It's really funny when a producer, the guy responsible for the overall sound of the album, blames the band. All of Rasmussen's production sounds like AIFA; if I'm not mistaken, didn't he produce the older Overkill albums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T303 Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Epic grave dig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pamackie Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 That's some serious thread necro going on here. Lots of bant in the intervening years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 Hmm, reading this thread again, I'm amazed how people can't detect a joke/trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I wonder how true this is lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr R Gecko Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 lol Aren't you Random Hero? I can't remember I'm Mr R Gecko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKD Posted March 25, 2010 Members Share Posted March 25, 2010 I wonder how true this is Nice find! This thread deserves to never die...but holy crap ...was it really 2007. How are you banned and still here though Mr Gecko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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