Members v_c Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Any fans or opinions? I've seen one cheap, but the no f/x loop thing is a BIG problem for me...can it be modded to have one by a half-decent amp tech? Or do you guys who own one (without effects loop) not find it such a big issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 i would find an amp without an fx loop pretty much useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DEADEYEDOM Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Fx loops kill the tone. The Aveger is one of the greatest amps built. Be a man and boycot the loop. Dom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Be a man and boycot the loop. Dom How does this make you a man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DEADEYEDOM Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 How does this make you a man? Just a figure of speach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DEADEYEDOM Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Any fans or opinions?I've seen one cheap, but the no f/x loop thing is a BIG problem for me...can it be modded to have one by a half-decent amp tech? Or do you guys who own one (without effects loop) not find it such a big issue? to answer your questions, i beleave you can get a loop added to an Avenger buy Soldano themselves, but it's quite a significant job. I wouldn't let anybody else have ago. I personally dont use any FX so i dont miss the loop at all.Dom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members simbasa Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 to answer your questions, i beleave you can get a loop added to an Avenger buy Soldano themselves, but it's quite a significant job. I wouldn't let anybody else have ago. I personally dont use any FX so i dont miss the loop at all.Dom Nope, I had a cheap serial effex loop put in my Avenger for 60 bucks. Worked fine with minimal signal loss. Minimal. And was a simple install for him. The guy said if I wanted a parallel, tube buffered loop, it would be at least 200 bucks. Any competent amp tech should be able to do it. Competent is the key word here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crack Hitler Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 I've been wondering the same thing myself. I only really need one channel, but the effects loop is a must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 basically, it's the OD channel of the SLO without a loop. if you want an avenger, but want a loop, you either gotta get one installed (as above) or get an SLO. you could also build a SLO clone (kinda tough) or buy one from someone who builds them:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gameshred Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 Soldano actually offers the Avenger with an effects loop installed. If you're buying used and you need a loop, you can send it back to them and they'll put one in for you. I don't know what the cost is, but you can contact them for that. Whether you need an effects loop or not depends on you. The only thing I use regularly is a drive pedal, so it's not that necessary for me. If you use a lot of effects and always use an external EQ, you'll need one. I've owned and played a number of amps and I really like this one. Even with the gain fairly high, it has a big open sound. Much less compression than most modern high gain amps. I will say that if you're use to an amp that has more compression to it, you'll notice mistakes much quicker with this amp. For the price, I don't think there's a better amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members v_c Posted September 16, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 but it's quite a significant job. I wouldn't let anybody else have ago. That pretty much decides it for me. My local tech is okay..ish, but not great. I wouldnt trust him to do anything half-complicated..Sending it to Soldano isnt an option, different continent unfortunately. That's a pity, it was a used one at a very good price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mhenson42 Posted September 16, 2007 Members Share Posted September 16, 2007 That's a pity, it was a used one at a very good price. PM sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members griffstrat Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 I have one of the new Avengers with an effects loop and it sounds awesome. There really isnt much tone difference between the ones with & without a loop. Soldano no longer uses Mercury Magnetic transformers(neither does Bogner and others...). Their new transformers are made to Soldano's specifications and I think they make the newer Avengers a little more "aggressive" and "edgy" sounding compared to the Mercury Magnetic Avengers. I also have one of the older Avengers(have owned 2 others as well) and they tend to be a little "smoother" sounding than the newer ones. I love Soldano and my favorite amp right now are Avengers.... I have owned around 8 different SLO's over the past 3 years and I like the Avenger's tone much better. Also, I use a standard Bogner 4x12 with an "X" pattern vintage 30's and GT12-75's and I love the tone. Soldano's sound great with GT12-75's...... I Also have a new Soldano 4x12 for a different flavor. Avengers are just a great amp and a great price!!!Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NANOplague Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 I have one of the new Avengers with an effects loop and it sounds awesome. There really isnt much tone difference between the ones with & without a loop. Soldano no longer uses Mercury Magnetic transformers(neither does Bogner and others...). Their new transformers are made to Soldano's specifications and I think they make the newer Avengers a little more "aggressive" and "edgy" sounding compared to the Mercury Magnetic Avengers. I also have one of the older Avengers(have owned 2 others as well) and they tend to be a little "smoother" sounding than the newer ones. I love Soldano and my favorite amp right now are Avengers.... I have owned around 8 different SLO's over the past 3 years and I like the Avenger's tone much better. Also, I use a standard Bogner 4x12 with an "X" pattern vintage 30's and GT12-75's and I love the tone. Soldano's sound great with GT12-75's...... I Also have a new Soldano 4x12 for a different flavor. Avengers are just a great amp and a great price!!! Bryan So the newer ones have the all black framus type grill in front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members griffstrat Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 So the newer ones have the all black framus type grill in front?Yeah, its not like Framus. More space between the slots...makes them look more like the Decatone and SLO. ....and it makes the tone better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members griffstrat Posted September 20, 2007 Members Share Posted September 20, 2007 ...here's the back showing the Send & Return jacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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