Members Sex Panther Posted November 25, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 25, 2007 It sounds like a modeler to me but still pretty good. The direct out is a modeler. Essentially the same thing as a pod. Bypasses the tubes completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Whackmaster Posted November 25, 2007 Members Share Posted November 25, 2007 Nice playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sled Posted November 25, 2007 Members Share Posted November 25, 2007 your playing was very nice, but IMO the tone was coarse and lacking for soloing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StringBreaker Posted November 25, 2007 Members Share Posted November 25, 2007 Killer playing!Sounds decent as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brick Posted November 25, 2007 Members Share Posted November 25, 2007 excellent playing, thats some nice improv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aerorockjax Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 can spidervalve be rebiased to accept el34's? are they going to come out with a more decent footswitch (and include it with the amp)? any experiences using spidervalve in a 2 guitar band where the solos are split between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yngzaklynch Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 Sounds pretty damn good to me. Dig the plaing to. What guitar were you using? Gibson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cowinacape Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 Great playing and great sound on the clip! One question (the new Valve series kind of has my interest piqued) dows the amp have a built in noise gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted November 26, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 I'm not sure if it can be biased for EL34's. I believe it has a built in noise gate, but I havent really messed with it. It's pretty quiet. The guitar used was a ESP EC-1000 with EMG's. I'll give the amp a full review Wednesday after band practice. We have 2 lead guitarists, so I'll see how it cuts through. Thanks for all the comments guys! Throw any clip requests my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverdrivenEL34s Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 when i see an amp with built in noise gate it sort of makes me suspect that when designing the amp a goal having it as noise free as possible wasn't high on the priority list. there are high gain amps that are quiet. sure high gain tends to lend itself to more noise but better design using higher quality components can greatly reduce such noise. having built in noise gate at least in the development phase allows the techs the lazy way out excuse "well it will have a noise gate so cutting the noise doesn't matter" which of course is stupid. to be fair, i'll admit I hate noise gates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jenksdrummer Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 The direct out is a modeler. Essentially the same thing as a pod. Bypasses the tubes completely. While I could easily try it myself and haven't bothered to, does the amp need to be fully turned on for it to work? It seems the modeler part comes on with the power switch, while the tubes come on with the standby switch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SevenString Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 when i see an amp with built in noise gate it sort of makes me suspect that when designing the amp a goal having it as noise free as possible wasn't high on the priority list. there are high gain amps that are quiet. sure high gain tends to lend itself to more noise but better design using higher quality components can greatly reduce such noise. having built in noise gate at least in the development phase allows the techs the lazy way out excuse "well it will have a noise gate so cutting the noise doesn't matter" which of course is stupid. to be fair, i'll admit I hate noise gates. The noise gate is built into the DSP in the entire Spider line, so there is no reason to arbitrarily remove the pre-existing feature for the Spider Valve, even the amp itself is very quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltaire Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 I enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SevenString Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 It seems the modeler part comes on with the power switch, while the tubes come on with the standby switch... You should read the manual, p. 1*2, sections 13 and 14, re. the "Standby" and "Power" switches. The Power switch turns on the entire amplifier, and should be left on for at least a minute (according to the manual) before you switch the "Standby" to ON. The "Standby" switch engages the speakers when you switch it to ON. AFAIK, the pre-amp out and the XLR recording out should both be enabled, even when the amp is set to "Standby". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted November 26, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 I had the amp on....but it was on standby. So it was completely silent when I was recording. And don't be too suspect of the noise gate. I've never used it, don't know how, and don't see the point. It's pretty quiet. I'm gonna post a MIC'ed clip I just did in a second... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jenksdrummer Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 You should read the manual, p. 1*2, sections 13 and 14, re. the "Standby" and "Power" switches. The Power switch turns on the entire amplifier, and should be left on for at least a minute (according to the manual) before you switch the "Standby" to ON. The "Standby" switch engages the speakers when you switch it to ON. AFAIK, the pre-amp out and the XLR recording out should both be enabled, even when the amp is set to "Standby". Read enough of the manul to realize it didn't say anything too important Standby drops the HV to the tubes, much like a regular tube amp - I just was unsure if it also dropped power to the SS preamp or not - if it didn't, the master would be the knob to control room-levels with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jenksdrummer Posted November 26, 2007 Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 I had the amp on....but it was on standby. So it was completely silent when I was recording. And don't be too suspect of the noise gate. I've never used it, don't know how, and don't see the point. It's pretty quiet. I'm gonna post a MIC'ed clip I just did in a second... The noise gate, from what I can tell, is engauged on at least a couple of the higher gain presets. I can hear it kick in and cut the sound. It's pretty annoying when you have "Meshuggah", but have adjusted everything around, and like running the gain quite low with the same model selected. (9:00 range) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted November 26, 2007 Author Members Share Posted November 26, 2007 The noise gate, from what I can tell, is engauged on at least a couple of the higher gain presets. I can hear it kick in and cut the sound. It's pretty annoying when you have "Meshuggah", but have adjusted everything around, and like running the gain quite low with the same model selected. (9:00 range)Ah, I don't really use the presets that much. I just made my own presets. It seems to be a great Hard Rock/Classic Rock amp, but I don't know if it would cut it for most Chugga Chugga guys. Fortunately, I'm not one of them....so it works great for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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