EU slaps Microsoft with

[bikehorn]

Wow. Check it out.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Microsoft_competition_case

[LionHeaRT07]

[Dolf]

sweet.

 

Knock ol' Bill down a billion or so.

[VoodooChild24]

Insignificant considering all the billions Microsoft has. They might get Yahoo so add another multi billion income.

[JesperX]

blah blah blah, antitrust bull{censored}, blah blah blah.

[bikehorn]

blah blah blah, antitrust bull{censored}, blah blah blah.

Did you pay attention to the part where they mentioned MS licensing practices?

[trey85stang]

so what does the EU do with all the revenue they generate from M$?

[nakedzen]

so what does the EU do with all the revenue they generate from M$?

 

 

Don't know, buy popsicles for everyone? Seriously that's not very much money considering the budget of the EU. (116 billion for 2007).

[Oops-A-Paisley]

so what does the EU do with all the revenue they generate from M$?

 

 

Though not relevant

Prior to the big fraud inquiry of 1999 it mostly went to French Farmers (read as landowners, vineyards, french people who owned something that looked like a farm animal...... a horse maybe)

 

Who knows what they are "up to" now though.

[Polaris20]

I wonder how long it'll take before MS just says "fine, we won't do business in the EU anymore".

 

Eh, they'd probably lose even more money doing that.

[Zozobra]

I wonder how long it'll take before MS just says "fine, we won't do business in the EU anymore". Eh, they'd probably lose even more money doing that.

 

 

That super extra likely. So likely that its actually happened.

[Duesentrieb]

I wonder how long it'll take before MS just says "fine, we won't do business in the EU anymore". Eh, they'd probably lose even more money doing that.

LOL

yeah, backwards socialist europeans don't need M$, thats true.

[satannica]

That super extra likely. So likely that its actually happened.

 

 

Eh? What is this about then? Can't find anything on the newsie sites?

 

 

 

Also, tbh these days I actually prefer media player these days.

 

Winamp has gotten so over-complex, its {censored} now! I liked the old version where I could just have player, playlist and EQ thats it. No, now you gotta have all the bollocks down the bottom of it and you can't double size anymore. I have {censored} eyesight and a crap monitor so need it big!

 

So for now WMP is fine for me.

 

Vista is {censored} though and will remain so until they release enough service packs to make it OK.

[Oops-A-Paisley]

LOL yeah, backwards socialist europeans don't need M$, thats true.

With all the tax that "socialists europeans" pay they cant even afford a server license anyway :lol::lol:

[Neilrocks25]

Vista is {censored} though and will remain so until they release enough service packs to make it OK.

 

 

or XP3

 

Vista is meh, and it slows down pc's with {censored} i dont need.

[Syn Harvest]

id like to know how the EU has the authority to fine a company thats not subject to their law

[Neilrocks25]

id like to know how the EU has the authority to fine a company thats not subject to their law

We are slowly taking over.

You have been warned

[grumphh]

id like to know how the EU has the authority to fine a company thats not subject to their law

So, if i had a company that sold goods in the US that company wouldn't be subject to US law?

Cool!

... man, what are you thinking?
... if at all thinking...

[satannica]

An international company would have various subsidery companies floated in various parts of the world. Even though the product is the same everywhere (more or less), the laws governing that country have to be abided by. For example, most companies have these, for example Microsoft USA, Microsoft UK, Microsoft Japan, etc.

For example, the company that I work has different rulings in different places. Even though the main head company is in Japan, there is still a UK division to abide by UK spec and ensure that the product(s) meets UK regulation and that appropriate taxes and duties are paid on anything we import. We are governed by a lot of UK bodies. If we break their rulings, or don't abide by what they say, they could deem our product unsafe and do anything from fining us through to forcing us to withdraw or recall our product.

We also need a license to sell our product in the UK which is not transferrable to another country and similarly, just because we're a Japanese country doesn't mean we can release our product with a japanese spec and expect the UK to be OK with that.

[Syn Harvest]

^ ok now that it makes alot more sense. i cant believe i didnt realize that before hand. its just to early in the morning

[satannica]

or XP3 Vista is meh, and it slows down pc's with {censored} i dont need.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, I can definately see the point in Vista. For my mom who is a complete and total technophobe and gets confused using simple things like televisions, its perfect. My mom can get around Vista far easier than she ever could with XP SP2 or 2000. So plus points there.

 

What I didn't like is as a veteran developer, I use the keyboard for 90% of my functions and rarely touch a mouse. ITs just something I've gotten used to over the time. Vista removing half of the functionality I use on a regular basis was one deal breaker for me.

 

The second (and most major) was it took me bloody ages to get a simple Audiophile 2496 card working on it let alone Cubase and Reason. The biggest {censored}ter for me was when I did my mixdown wav, windows media had already slapped its own copy management tags on the file. I had copied it to a CD and then taken it to another machine which wouldn't let me do anything with it, complaining about licensing. So that to me was my last foray into Vista.

 

This was quite near when Visa was first launched and I'm sure half of this is no longer an issue, but the way I see it, my machine is fairly low spec, and XP2 does everything I want for now - if it aint broke, don't fix it!

[thefyn]

Yay! Free microsoft money!!!

I feel bad for Gates. He should be even richer with the amount of piracy going on.

I think they guy deserves every penny he has. Poor old Xerox. He kinda nicked Windows from them.

[thefyn]

The second (and most major) was it took me bloody ages to get a simple Audiophile 2496 card working on it let alone Cubase and Reason. The biggest {censored}ter for me was when I did my mixdown wav, windows media had already slapped its own copy management tags on the file. I had copied it to a CD and then taken it to another machine which wouldn't let me do anything with it, complaining about licensing. So that to me was my last foray into Vista.

 

 

Hah! That is hilarious!

[ilovemystrat]

An international company would have various subsidery companies floated in various parts of the world. Even though the product is the same everywhere (more or less), the laws governing that country have to be abided by. For example, most companies have these, for example Microsoft USA, Microsoft UK, Microsoft Japan, etc. For example, the company that I work has different rulings in different places. Even though the main head company is in Japan, there is still a UK division to abide by UK spec and ensure that the product(s) meets UK regulation and that appropriate taxes and duties are paid on anything we import. We are governed by a lot of UK bodies. If we break their rulings, or don't abide by what they say, they could deem our product unsafe and do anything from fining us through to forcing us to withdraw or recall our product. We also need a license to sell our product in the UK which is not transferrable to another country and similarly, just because we're a Japanese country doesn't mean we can release our product with a japanese spec and expect the UK to be OK with that.

 

 

M$ japan? i teach teh manager of M$ japan on sundays. funny guy, he says that american women are too fat for his taste