Members mparsons Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 Just curious! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=442291&songID=6405436 In this recording, there are drums, and two guitar tracks. Each is panned hard left and right. One is an HD147, the other is a Peavey 6505+. Guess which is which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bonchie Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 These threads totally miss the point. Recording wise, you can make a POD sound amazing if you tweak it enough. Its in a live setting at high volumes that tubes totally rape digital technology in sound, harmonics, and touch response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 Just curious! http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=442291&songID=6405436In this recording, there are drums, and two guitar tracks. Each is panned hard left and right. One is an HD147, the other is a Peavey 6505+. Guess which is which. The difference won't be that apparent on something this high gain; playing all 16th and 32nd notes with the gain dimed is hardly going to sound super "tubey" in either case; but the left track sounds better for what that's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mparsons Posted March 27, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 This recording was miced at high volumes. The 6505+ was recorded through a Marshall 1960B cab with G12T75s. The HD147 was recorded through an Avatar 412 with CL80s. Fredman mic technique on both. EDIT: If you listen to the entire clip, there are several sections with long held out chords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bonchie Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 The difference won't be that apparent on something this high gain; playing all 16th and 32nd notes with the gain dimed is hardly going to sound super "tubey" in either case; but the left track sounds better for what that's worth. I was thinking that also. Way to heavy of a clip to do a tube vs. digital test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tommythelurker Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 Nope, I can't tell the difference. You managed to make your tube amp sound as crappy as a digital one. congratulations. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Grimace Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 These threads totally miss the point. Recording wise, you can make a POD sound amazing if you tweak it enough. Its in a live setting at high volumes that tubes totally rape digital technology in sound, harmonics, and touch response. I think tube amps sound better in general, recorded too, but the newest SS amps are really catching up. Frankly, tube amps haven't gotten any "better" in the last 20 years; we've reached the maximum amount of distortion that will sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mparsons Posted March 27, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 Maybe I should provide more background. This was a recording for a band I was in called Jenovah. We never got any farther than this. I was trying to get both mine and the other guitarists rig sounding as good as possible. I'm not trying to trick anyone. There's no studio editing at all on these tracks. Just pure guitar tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 left is the tube right is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tele62 Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 How are you supposed to tell? They both sound {censored} - and with a musical style like that you're not going to really notice the picking dynamics and 'touch-sensitivity' of a tube amp are ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dolf Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 from what I can tell, teh 5150 is in the left speaker. I'm only drawing this conclusion because it was so much noisier when not being played and the HD147 has a built-in noise gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 all I heard were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brick Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 i also thought the left side was teh PV it just sounded a wee bit more "lively" for lack of a better word :idk; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 the left sounded smoother and the right was more staticy like line 6. But both are known to be fizzy so IDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Agreed Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 I can't tell digital amp modeling nearly as easily as I can tell digital cabinet modeling. Cabinet impulse responses make digital a much, much more lively option if you ask me. And that's why the big guys in digital amp and effects modeling are all using cab IR (and reverb IR, too) now, heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RUExp? Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 I'm guessing Peavey on the left, Line 6 on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheAmazingBlob Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 No idea. Low quality, too much gain, both being played the same time... I have no clue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kinggeoff Posted March 27, 2008 Members Share Posted March 27, 2008 pv on the left i says but honestly both felt like backpacking through teh mud better recordings needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Trextomb Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 its a horrible recording none the less. if it was another band, then im not blaming you..they just kind of sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Brady Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 Doesn't matter in this case. Both tones suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members openedskittles Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 what the eff????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Agreed Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 Tubey tube versis solid statey tube? Come on, you're mad. To call something "solid state sounding" when you really just mean "bad" exposes a lack of exposure to good SS amps on your part and a bias against the amp as well. If the terms are just like this, "Tube=good sounding" and "SS=bad sounding" then you're broadly missing the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blargh Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 Bad comparison. Neither is recorded well. Now if Ted Templeman was a HCAF user and posted a clip of the old Van Halen tone coming out of a digital amp, recorded with whatever badass studio gear he used for the VH albums, I'd be a believer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Valserp Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 I'm also guessing Tube on left, digi on right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr Wanker Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 Um, it's a digital recording, so they're BOTH digital now. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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