Members goatman Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Bugera+Amps/6262+Head/10/1 everyone reckons they're pretty good.well, i went down to the local music store to check one out. sounds like nails on a chalk board crossed with an angle grinder. the mid knob is like more trebble and the treble knob is pretty retarted. :poke: there is no way of getting a smooth distortion - it's either like painfully trebly or muddy... and muddy still has too much highs in it. no way of getting a creamy sound. i'm after soemthing like evh smoothness. i can get that with my zoom and a 15w ebay amp. what the? those tubes would be more usefull as paperweights than inside this amp. that's my rant, do all full tube amps sound this crap?? otherwise it's behringer digital crap for me... eeeewwww. :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 heh... it sounds great sounds good on youtube.... i don't get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Existentialist Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 Not all tube amps sound like a 6262 no. If it was your first experience with a tube amp though you were likely not setting the tone right. They have to be adjusted quite differently from a 15w ebay amp or zoom modeler. I haven't really heard any Bugeras that made me want to buy one but worst than a zoom and ss 15w is a bit harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 i played with it for an hour. how long does it take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 will it work better with a different cab? i played the combo one so idk how good the speakers are that come with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gnt1856 Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 Booo... ...ger-a cakefarts. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trey85stang Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 maybe your ears are broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 it's so fuzzy. where's the creamy crunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Warhorse Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 Were you able to turn it up kinda loud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 t-rolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 edit: t-rolled - just ranting, man..kinda loud meaning what? kinda loud meaning if i was playing in a band in a 500 seater hall i'd have sufficient on stage noise to annoy the sound guy? yea. it gets a little better as the volume goes up but what i don't get is that i wouldn't pay 300 for this crapo and aparently it's about equal to a 5150... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 4, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=WgwYbjMj2ts333 sounds much better - much smoother... even with stinky cabsdown here in australia 6260 costs $850aud, 333 is $950 for the combos. i'm gonna check out the 333 tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlc1587 Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 I thought the 333xl sounded much better than the 6262 also. I tried both before I bought. I wasn't that impressed with the 6262 and I already had a peavey 6505 which sounded better. But tube amps are different. I remember when I got my first 5150 after being used to solid state amps. I had no idea what I was doing. I thought it was just flip it on dial it in the same way as my solid state amp and go. And I remember thinking damn this thing wasn't worth it it don't sound that great. And now solid state doesn't even come close. Also you have to have your post gain up and pretty loud for tube amps like this to sound great. They sound good when the tubes are pushed. That being said the 6262 is still a much higher quality amp and way better tone wise than a zoom and a 15 watt amp. I don't even think it could be compared. But if you do it like a solid state amp and go in there and max out your presence and your highs it's going to screech and pierce your ears and sound like crap where as on most solid state amps you can do this and it just sound normal. The mid knob isn't a treble knob the reason it sounds like that to you is because the mids come out more with tubes. You can hear the notes better and more clear with more mids. So to an unexperienced ear it might sound like the treble is up more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 19shannon73 Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 I think they're pretty good. i wanna grab the head version. about $699 i think. damn cheap for a tube head here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members charveldan Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 Try using an EQ noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shiny_Surface Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 it's so fuzzy. where's the creamy crunch? You shouldn't have looked at that amp in the first place if creamy crunch is your goal. You should be targeting a different range of amp types for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted December 4, 2008 Members Share Posted December 4, 2008 You shouldn't have looked at that amp in the first place if creamy crunch is your goal.You should be targeting a different range of amp types for that... +1 That said, the 6262 sounds pretty decent for what it is. It does sound similar to a 5150 II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 ok..i tried the 333 and what a difference! i'm apreciating tubes now! i forgot to try the speaker dampning control, what does it do?also what would i be looking for to get creamy crunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gnt1856 Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 ok..i tried the 333 and what a difference! i'm apreciating tubes now! i forgot to try the speaker dampning control, what does it do? It basically informs the small Asian man living in the cab/combo to pour a bucket of water over the speakers, thus dampening them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 right lol. does it help to get a creamy crunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtyBird Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 ok..i tried the 333 and what a difference! i'm apreciating tubes now! i forgot to try the speaker dampning control, what does it do?also what would i be looking for to get creamy crunch? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damping_factor Damping is how well the amp can control the speaker. If you play a 5150, the resonance knob is from what I understand a sort of voltage feedback circuit to the powertubes (something like that, I have no idea what that actually means) But what it's actually doing is adjusting how well the amp can control the speaker. Turning hte res knob to zero on a 5150 gives you the tightest low end because it's very well-controlled, but turning it up lets the speaker woof out a little bit for lack of a better way to put it. The end result is GOBS of huge low end chug. But at the expense of how tight adn defined it is. The Triple XXX has a 3-position switch instead of a knob. I'm guessing the Bugeras have something similar. That's what the damping switch does. You can get less, but better controlled bass, or more loosely controlled bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gnt1856 Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Didn't you read shiny_surface's post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 Didn't you read shiny_surface's post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 50Lions Posted December 5, 2008 Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 it'll take one hell of a long time to get a 'creamy crunch' out of the 66xx line. the 333 line is much better suited for that as you found out. Remember you have to push the power section to get a good tone out of the amp, but also try running an eq infront of the amp. Helps shape your tone alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goatman Posted December 5, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 5, 2008 i'll probably use the 2.1u in the fx loop and use the 6band eq on that to smoothen it out. does placing objects in front of the cab such as foam or cloth help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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