Members Soulcrusher_X Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 What does everyone think of these? I was thinking of trying them in my JSX. I hear they are smooth and will help tame the high end on brighter amps, but they are one of the highest gain current production preamp tubes. Who has used them and what do they think. My JSX is due for a retube, so I was thinking of going with some Mullards in the preamp and some SED 6L6s in the poweramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithcar Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 I was curious about them as well. I saw a post on audiokarma. and the general consensus, is they are good, toneful tubes. http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=130126 They are still too expensive for me, i cant find them for any cheaper than 16-17 bucks a piece. Im really curious about the mullard RI EL34's as they are more in my price range for power tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JetCityMatt Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 What does everyone think of these? I was thinking of trying them in my JSX. I hear they are smooth and will help tame the high end on brighter amps, but they are one of the highest gain current production preamp tubes. Who has used them and what do they think. My JSX is due for a retube, so I was thinking of going with some Mullards in the preamp and some SED 6L6s in the poweramp. I just figured out why I have been annoyed with my sound for years. It was that damn G12H30 (Hellatone30) all this time making my sound too bright and harsh. Now my 2x12 has a greenback and a Vintage30 and it is wonderful. So... this bright amp of yours... have you played it through your greenback loaded cab too? Just on the off chance that you never have- try it and you wont have a harsh bright amp anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soulcrusher_X Posted February 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 I just figured out why I have been annoyed with my sound for years. It was that damn G12H30 (Hellatone30) all this time making my sound too bright and harsh. Now my 2x12 has a greenback and a Vintage30 and it is wonderful. So... this bright amp of yours... have you played it through your greenback loaded cab too? Just on the off chance that you never have- try it and you wont have a harsh bright amp anymore. Oh, no question, the Greenbacks are by far smoother than the G12H-30s. You are definitely right about the H30s being bright and gritty on the top end. I was still curious about the Mullard RI tubes though. =) I love those Greenbacks, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 the el84's that're marketed under mullards name are really nice and smooth. they're pretty short lived in my amp.. but they really are nice sounding-- very round shouldered and easy on the ears.. but i can't speak to the ax7's. i use 'em through an h30, and they take the edge off there... so if that's an indication... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pablo Jose Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hope they last as long as this baby. 13 years trouble free until this week. When I got that, the store was pushing the new "Groove Tubes" range of premium tubes so they did it at a lower price as nobody wanted the Boogie tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hope they last as long as this baby. 13 years trouble free until this week. When I got that, the store was pushing the new "Groove Tubes" range of premium tubes so they did it at a lower price as nobody wanted the Boogie tubes. Isn't that a tesla tube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pablo Jose Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Dunno, it wasn't a big deal back then but now I have had to use my replacement, I gotta get me a spare. Can't believe the prices of all the tubes. And now there are Gold pins as well!!, must sound great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mustaine-who? Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Its a real nice tube. Lotsa gain, musical, 3-d, not as bright as a Tungsol or Chinese 9th...not as woody as a Sovtek LPS. Just a smidge noisier than the LPS, but much quieter than the Chinese 9th or Tungsol. Light years more musical than JJs... YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pablo Jose Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Its a real nice tube. Lotsa gain, musical, 3-d, not as bright as a Tungsol or Chinese 9th...not as woody as a Sovtek LPS. Just a smidge noisier than the LPS, but much quieter than the Chinese 9th or Tungsol. Light years more musical than JJs...YMMV That's a Lotta work for a tube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Its a real nice tube. Lotsa gain, musical, 3-d, not as bright as a Tungsol or Chinese 9th...not as woody as a Sovtek LPS. Just a smidge noisier than the LPS, but much quieter than the Chinese 9th or Tungsol. Light years more musical than JJs...YMMV Sorry for the partial hijack, but what are the LPSs like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve f Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Hope they last as long as this baby. 13 years trouble free until this week. When I got that, the store was pushing the new "Groove Tubes" range of premium tubes so they did it at a lower price as nobody wanted the Boogie tubes. Looks like a Chinese tube, Shuguang 12AX7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Looks like a Chinese tube, Shuguang 12AX7. Really? Hmm, I was thrown off by the Ecc83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Sorry for the partial hijack, but what are the LPSs like? harsh, unmusical, bright on top, and harmonically parched, flat and hifi. but that's just this man's opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PlinytheWelder Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 So far, I like the Mullard RI a lot. I have it in my Laney AOR 100 in V3 which is a cathode follower IIRC. I would like to have more of them to plug in other slots.Nice smooth middle of the road tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MetalHed Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Looks like a Chinese tube, Shuguang 12AX7. You sir, are correct. I'm quite familiar with particular tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steve f Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Really? Hmm, I was thrown off by the Ecc83 Groove Tubes added that. It's accurate of course since it's just the European term for 12AX7. The giveaway is the metal clip on the plate structure in the right side of the pic. Here's a group of Shuguang 12ax7s that I had. I didn't have a closeup of a single tube, but you can see the clip on a couple of them. http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q241/stevenc131/Shu1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarman967 Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 If this tube has a smoother more musical top than a Shuguang tube then I'd like to grab a truckload of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 harsh, unmusical, bright on top, and harmonically parched, flat and hifi.but that's just this man's opinion... That's an opinion I trust though. And not something I want in my guitar amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mustaine-who? Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 That's an opinion I trust though. And not something I want in my guitar amp. I couldn't disagree more... Now if you were describing the Tungsol I'd say spot on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hecticone Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 They really enhanced the sound of my twin reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pablo Jose Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Really? Hmm, I was thrown off by the Ecc83 It's a 7025 to me. I don't even wanna enter the new world of replacements & the cost lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SweepLegatto Posted February 6, 2009 Members Share Posted February 6, 2009 Dont know about the mullard, but the tung sol reissue real adds some bass and mids and make the sound with less ice picking trebles. It's a tube that you also should try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soulcrusher_X Posted February 7, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 If this tube has a smoother more musical top than a Shuguang tube then I'd like to grab a truckload of them. Yeah, no kidding. The 9th gen Chinese tube is one of my favorites. From all the responses here, I think I'll try a few of the Mullards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted February 7, 2009 Members Share Posted February 7, 2009 I couldn't disagree more...Now if you were describing the Tungsol I'd say spot on... i'd bet, though, you use a higher gain amp--- that answer was more tailored toward Exocaster though-- i've heard similar reports of those under a goodly bit of gain, for what it's worth! in lower gain apps-- man... p.u.. don't like me the long plate sovteks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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