Members mike moriarty Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Thats impossible. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rampage Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 What about a Bugera in meltd:own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mooktank Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 They can actually BE warm though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixtonoize Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Amps can't actually sound like 99% of the terms used to describe them.Guitarists, however, aren't generally smart enough to use technically correct terminology. This is why we get term like "tone for days" and "chewy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 ^All of those previous posts are accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rrrajo Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Perhaps , they are being compared to water in a pool. Warm water...comfort -------- warm amp ....niceCold water....shock! ouch! ------ cold amp...hurt ears! shatter nerves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Badside Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 What is so wrong with using non-technical terms to describe in a subjective way a certain sound quality that some amps have? It's much better than a guitarist in a studio asking to make the guitar sound more purple. You would prefer comments like "I'd say it has more even harmonics than usual and the odd ones are kept under 2% approx. The high-end rolls off gently past 4KHz with a drop never bigger than 6dB per octave" I'd rather have him tell me it sounds warm. You know that the colour blue is just a narrow frequency spectrum of electro-magnetic radiation? Blue is just a subjective name for a 440-490nm long electro-magnetic wave. This thread is harsh and sterile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mike moriarty Posted June 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Yeah but what the {censored} does it mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Badside Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Yeah but what the {censored} does it mean? It means more even harmonics, less odd harmonics and a gentle high-end roll-off I don't know... I know a warm amp when I hear one. Warm is basically what tubes do when they start to overdrive but just before the point where you can distinctly hear distortion (which can also means a dirty preamp into a slightly overdriven power amp), it's something that SS amps just can't do. Hence the subjective association of hot vacuum tubes... warmth... basically. Play clean through a LOUD Fender Twin Reverb, then through a Roland JC120, you will understand what warm means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixtonoize Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 This thread is harsh and sterile Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Badside Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 I agree that a lot of the time it's easier to talk in "guitarist speak" than technical terms...but the problem is that no two people have the same definition of "warm," the same way that no two people can ever seem to agree on "boxy," "sterile" or "organic". For sure, but there is no real other option... Also, people buy a cheap tube amp as their first tube amp and rave on how warm and dynamic it is, yet it only is in relation to their prior SS amp. I know I've been there! The other I saw a guy with a horrible lead tone, couldn't make out a single note he was playing. It was a Traynor combo, then he tells me how much he loves this amp... his first tube amp. So you'll have me saying how fuzzy and boxy this amp is, then someone will comment on how dynamic and warm it is... Oh well, this is 2009, we now have Youtube videos to get an idea. But to me: Boxy: not much frequency extension coupled with a somewhat "cluttered" low-endSterile: total absence of any distortion, including the "warm" kind that is 2nd order harmonics, opposite of warmOrganic: a combination of warmth, coupled with a certain elastic quality (this one I just can't explain in technical terms, I now an "elastic" amp when I play one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaoloJM Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 An online audio dictionary would be a cool idea. Only problem is; no-one would ever agree of the sound clip definitions I'd be happy to let someone like Andy Timmons to compile it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixtonoize Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Sterile: total absence of any distortion, including the "warm" kind that is 2nd order harmonics, opposite of warm Perfect example - you say that "sterile" means that there's NO distortion, but then people call EMGs or a VH-4 "sterile" because they compress...which is a form of distortion. I had a friend who had dialed in a {censored}ty modeled high-gain tone on his Boss floor unit (GT-something), and he remarked to me "Dude...that sounds SO WARM"...which apparently meant that it sounded like it had a blanket over the speakers and was buried 3' underground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NaptownChris Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 It's much better than a guitarist in a studio asking to make the guitar sound more purple. My band recorded a demo a couple of weeks ago. The guy running the board came in to the room while I was playing along with the drummer and said I "needed to play more like... " Then wiggled his shoulders a little and walked back out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mpdan Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 It's much better than a guitarist in a studio asking to make the guitar sound more purple. That happened to me. No joke. I was supposed to sound more yellow. It was the artist that wanted to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 That happened to me. No joke. I was supposed to sound more yellow. It was the artist that wanted to change it. You should have went and found a yellow guitar to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixtonoize Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mpdan Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 You should have went and found a yellow guitar to play. It's already kinda yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Badside Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 That happened to me. No joke. I was supposed to sound more yellow. It was the artist that wanted to change it. I wrote a song, I wrote a song for you, and it was all yellow! My tone has some greenness in the mids, I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cerebrus Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 I think "warm" is a good descriptive term for certain tones that have lots of lows, mids, and no harsh highs. This guy does NOT have warm tone: (listen to "Wicked Kiss") http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=53792676 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mbarn3065 Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 "Warm" is in the fingers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesbox101 Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Thats impossible. Discuss. . fluorescent lights- sterile and cold. incandescent lamps- muh funkin warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jaytee123 Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Thats impossible.Discuss. Well, then, they can't sound "bright" either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members the_bleeding Posted June 6, 2009 Members Share Posted June 6, 2009 Mike Moriarty does not know what the term "Warm" means in an audio context. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WayTooApe Posted June 7, 2009 Members Share Posted June 7, 2009 I think "warm" is a good descriptive term for certain tones that have lots of lows, mids, and no harsh highs. This guy does NOT have warm tone: (listen to "Wicked Kiss")http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=53792676 From what I heard of "Wicked Kiss", he doesn't really have talent either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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