Members ido1957 Posted September 11, 2010 Members Share Posted September 11, 2010 Mike and I got together for our annual vacation this week. We decided to resurrect an old tune and rework it. mjhamil - all vocals,drums,bassido - all guitars Sonar 7.0Rode NT2APOD X3 Live/StratocasterAmpeg SVT4 Pro/RickenbackerTTS-1 DrumsRokit 6 Let me know what you think of this song http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=9632576&q=hihttp://soundclick.com/share?songid=9632576 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SomeoneYouKnew Posted September 11, 2010 Members Share Posted September 11, 2010 The drums feel like they were played by a guitarist. There are odd pushes and pulls in the tempo that don't work. It's an awkward sort of shuffle. Other than that, I kinda like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted September 11, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 11, 2010 Someone You Knew nows' programmed by bass/guitarist. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted September 12, 2010 Members Share Posted September 12, 2010 This, it seems to me, is the songwriting equivalent of Pat Nixon's respectable Republican cloth coat. ("I should say this, that Pat doesn't have a mink coat. But she does have a respectable Republican cloth coat, and I always tell her she would look good in anything," from the so-called Checkers speech.) The lyrics don't exactly scale the poetic heights, but no one's asking them to. They seem there mostly to support a pleasant rock shuffle of the type we've often heard from you guys. And they do that well enough. The individual lyrical parts feel a little worn ("burning bridges," "riding high, top of the world") and the plot line is more suggestive than filled in, but, again, it serves to support what could be a live crowd pleaser in the right context and with the right performance. This is the songwriting and not a performance-oriented forum, but I think it might nonetheless be helpful (in a Dutch uncle kind of way) to suggest that, in this recording, that that performance isn't really drawing out the song's strengths. I wouldn't say that the drum part is badly written -- although the dynamics between primary hits and ghost hits, particularly with the kick -- seem too narrow and it pushes the syncopation angle too much, I think for the conception of the guitars and bass accompaniment. I think it needs to be tamed a little, with the fundamental rhythm points given more emphasis vis a vis the syncopated counter beats. And I suspect it may be the prominence of those syncopation elements that seemed to draw the performance pretty far afield of the rhythmic marks, here. I've heard some smooth, pretty slickly played stuff from you, but this performance just doesn't hold together very well, I'm afraid. And that means that instead of the required, tight, joyful playing that such a simple and unassuming song would require to get over are just not there, yet. Perhaps another reworking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted September 15, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2010 The drums should be replaced shortly with a live drum take from a real drummer. Once they get done we may have to redo some tracks. I tend to follow the drums and the current rhythm may need revision. I'm hoping that will improve the overall groove of the tune.... Mike's should be in touch with the drummer soon.... Will post revision once done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alan14 Posted September 16, 2010 Members Share Posted September 16, 2010 very good post, will like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted September 16, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 16, 2010 very good post, will like it To bad this is just SPAM, I really thought you liked it :-(Oh well, sent this to our drummer frind for live drums. Should be back shortly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blue2blue Posted September 16, 2010 Members Share Posted September 16, 2010 Just 'cause he/she/it is a robot, doesn't mean they didn't like your music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnowAngel Posted September 17, 2010 Members Share Posted September 17, 2010 I like it. It's danceable! It seems to lose synchronicity in a couple of places, but it's a good song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted September 18, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 18, 2010 Update - live drums done, just need to mix them in. Redid the lead break tonight as it was little behind the beat. Should gel a little better next version.....Will upload new version soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted September 20, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 20, 2010 Let me know what you think of this with added live drums: Streaming Linkhttp://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=9632576&q=hi Song Pagehttp://soundclick.com/share?songid=9632576 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted September 26, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 26, 2010 Did a number of edits, retracked a few guitars. Still have some work to do on the arrangement but a good second attempt.Let me know what you think of this mix.http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=9632576&q=hihttp://soundclick.com/share?songid=9632576 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snoggin Posted September 29, 2010 Members Share Posted September 29, 2010 I am hearingt little kids and stuff in there.. WTF.. it souunds like two songs going.. Damn soundlcick ad lol.. Seriously its kinda mushy sounding like there is to much indistinct stuff in there.. maybe less is more?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snoggin Posted September 29, 2010 Members Share Posted September 29, 2010 I listened to the retracked version and what is off to me is the lead guitar all the time.. Its kinda like a harmonica player that wont lay back.. I think it could work in an Atlanta Rhythym section kind of way.. The two guitars make the guitar solo that is there just not matter. sorry thats what I think ... go beat my song up lol... jk Its all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted September 29, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 29, 2010 I listened to the retracked version and what is off to me is the lead guitar all the time.. Its kinda like a harmonica player that wont lay back.. I think it could work in an Atlanta Rhythym section kind of way.. The two guitars make the guitar solo that is there just not matter. sorry thats what I think ... go beat my song up lol... jk Its all good Thanks Snoggin....Listen to my song "Real Love" on Soundclick. I'm going to try and edit the lead fills around the vocals the same way. Takes a long time to do but I'll post it when I get it done.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snoggin Posted September 29, 2010 Members Share Posted September 29, 2010 I listened to it and that track is much more polished.. Isnt it easier to just play the song that way in the beginning rather than edit?? I speak sincerely as i dont know about digital recording much yet but it seem easier to record it the way you want rather than to edit it down. I want to record a cd of my stuff soon so trying t o learn some about all this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted September 29, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 29, 2010 I listened to it and that track is much more polished.. Isnt it easier to just play the song that way in the beginning rather than edit?? I speak sincerely as i dont know about digital recording much yet but it seem easier to record it the way you want rather than to edit it down.I want to record a cd of my stuff soon so trying t o learn some about all this Yes either way works but I prefer editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted September 30, 2010 Members Share Posted September 30, 2010 The verse chord progression leans a little heavily on Moondance :poke: I like this one a lot. Killer guitar work as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted October 1, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 1, 2010 The verse chord progression leans a little heavily on Moondance :poke: I like this one a lot. Killer guitar work as usual. Thanks rsadasiv! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ido1957 Posted October 2, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 2, 2010 Update - same link - new mix -drums by poeticintensity -bass,vocals by mjhamil -guitars by ido1957 Edits on guitar to give it some breathing room. Let me know what you think of this mix. Song Page http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9632576 Streaming Link - this seems to be broken so just use the song page... http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=9632576&q=hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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