Members guitar_dude45 Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 Hi I'm getting tired of moving my 4x12 + head from gig to gig, secondly, some gigs are really small and the 4x12 is overkill. I think i want a 2x12 combo. I need two channels, FX-Loop, Great cleans and chunky, fat distortion with good low-end (not too bright). Must to be plenty loud to be heard without PA and sound huge. Things I'm considering:Orange Rockerverb 50 ComboMesa Electra Dyne 2x12 Feel free to suggest other amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 if you like your current amp just get a 2x12 cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitar_dude45 Posted October 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 I forgot to mention that I want to change the amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevenexp Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 HiI'm getting tired of moving my 4x12 + head from gig to gig, secondly, some gigs are really small and the 4x12 is overkill. I think i want a 2x12 combo. I need two channels, FX-Loop, Great cleans and chunky, fat distortion with good low-end (not too bright). Must to be plenty loud to be heard without PA and sound huge.Things I'm considering:Orange Rockerverb 50 ComboMesa Electra Dyne 2x12Feel free to suggest other amps. That will be difficult without a 4x12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 I forgot to mention that I want to change the amp Ok so I will recommend the 5150 combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 That will be difficult without a 4x12. Not so much. My 1x12 Budda SD30 cuts through and sounds huge, and I don't even have to crank it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dewysoss Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 That will be difficult without a 4x12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 That will be difficult without a 4x12. You have gigged, or been to a concert, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unclemeat Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 Nice combo good price... CARVIN LEGACY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uncle_Milton Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 if you like your current amp just get a 2x12 cab Even a 1x12 or thiele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 Nice combo good price... CARVIN LEGACY yep, good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 Not so much. My 1x12 Budda SD30 cuts through and sounds huge, and I don't even have to crank it. But all you'll get is treble to the back of the bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phyrexia Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 i run my mark v and a thiele. i think i'm getting one of the widebody cabs to use instead of the thiele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sex Panther Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 But all you'll get is treble to the back of the bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrendanO Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 But all you'll get is treble to the back of the bar? If you're at the back of the bar, do you give a {censored} what the band is playing, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 If you're at the back of the bar, do you give a {censored} what the band is playing, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevenexp Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 2x12 without a PA sounding huge at a gig? Like I said, that would be difficult. I'm not sure why you guys would argue with that? Also, +1 for the Legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RamoRenDez Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 My 212s sound as 'big', if not 'bigger', than a lot of 412s I've heard and played through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 I am a little curious about this "no PA" thing. So you have NO PA? You don't have vocals? Or maybe you only have a one channel PA mixer? Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltaire Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 just get a marshall MG half stack, everyone knows they're better than any combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 My 212s sound as 'big', if not 'bigger', than a lot of 412s I've heard and played through. My 2x12 open back combo sounds "big" to me because it has volume everywhere. It fills a small-medium size room better than a 4x12..because there is sound everywhere onstage and in room. Large rooms need mic'd (generally) no matter what kind of rig you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Devinstation Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 just get a marshall MG half stack, everyone knows they're better than any combo. Get 4 Mesa Mark Combos and gut them. Hide MG halfstack behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevenexp Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 My 2x12 open back combo sounds "big" to me because it has volume everywhere. It fills a small-medium size room better than a 4x12..because there is sound everywhere onstage and in room. Large rooms need mic'd (generally) no matter what kind of rig you have.I read this 3 times and still have no clue what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltaire Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 Get 4 Mesa Mark Combos and gut them.Hide MG halfstack behind them. true true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted October 11, 2009 Members Share Posted October 11, 2009 I read this 3 times and still have no clue what you are saying. It's really very simple. And this is MHO of course.a 4x12 cab has a sort of "laser beam" effect. That's why some people like them. My 2x12 combo spreads sound from the front AND back. In fact...at loud gigs, I often mic from the back. Sound coming from the front AND back and spreading around = bigger...to me. A drummer in one of the bands I was in commented on it. I had tried a 4x12 for awhile, and he said he couldn't hear me as well. I figured out that he was used to hearing a lot of me from the back of my amp. Then I started taking notice. I'd walk around the stage and see where I could hear myself best. If I set up in a corner...I had the sound reverberating all around. If it was a very big stage and I could walk around...I'd hear myself better around the stage with an open back combo. The open back combo DEFINITELY spread sound around MUCH better...hence...sounds "bigger".....when not standing in a very certain place, like right in front of a 4x12. If your into that kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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