Members timmyfirst Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 I've got this kind of thing going on with my Vanquish's neck p90, its probably one of the best things i've ever had fitted to a guitar, it really opens up the palette of tones you can get from the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaoloJM Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 Will this work with EMG's? Active EMG wont need this. Do you mean the passive ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 it really opens up the palette of tones corksniffer lolz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 My Carvin doesn't seem to lose treble when turning down the volume, and it has no cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dolf Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 I have caps on my LP and it STILL darkens quite a bit when rolling back. Such is life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -todgemistro- Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 50s wiring + treble bleed = good cleans on a single channel. I hate using guitars without this mod now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 corksniffer lolz! Yeah, you know it, i only play custom guitars, need to get a dumble next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rufus Leaking Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 50s wiring + treble bleed = good cleans on a single channel. I hate using guitars without this mod now. What value cap do you use and where do you connect it with the 50's wiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kardula Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 i used to hang my UFC cap on my gibson....didn't really have the same effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HumanFuseBen Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 I hate using guitars without a cap on them! Good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metalguy Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 this is one thing i've been wanting to try lately but I don't wanna end up with to much treble and having to change them out to find the right one. I"m not sure i have that kind of patience. its on my list of things to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aldridt1 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 if you have semi good soldering skills, it will probably take longer to warm up the iron and remove the control cover than it will to put the cap on, or switch to a different one. Its pretty simple. No wires to mess with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rufus Leaking Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 this is one thing i've been wanting to try lately but I don't wanna end up with to much treble and having to change them out to find the right one. I"m not sure i have that kind of patience. its on my list of things to do. Just experiment using alligator clips until you find the value you like - then solder into place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grumphh Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 I did cut the treble bleed cap on my Kramer because i found the tone with the volume rolled down to be far to bright and piercing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diocide Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 Will this work with EMG's? No. EMG's have no tone to improve on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sled Posted January 30, 2012 Members Share Posted January 30, 2012 Any ceramic disc cap is fine. One of the worst caps to use. Silver Mica is way better. Also, some of the values suggested are way to large. The amount of hi-freq roll-off depends on the amps design, but much smaller values (around 100pf) than suggested is the best place to start. A better place to tackle this is in the amp's front end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aldridt1 Posted January 31, 2012 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 the 330's that I use are definitely bright. It would be too bright on its own, but with a band it cuts thru well. I will have to try some lower values. I just looked at what was used on an old Ibanez I had that I thought worked well, and bought a ton of them, all the same value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 Even the worst cap you could possibly use is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jshaffer20 Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 I need to do this with my guitars. I hate losing treble when I back off on the vol. knob. I want the cleaner tone with the same amount of treble. I have heard of this before, just been to lazy/busy to try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Valtiel Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 EMGs shouldn't need it. The tone almost doesn't change when you turn them down. Yup, EMGs use those 25k pots. It's the increase in resistance that causes the treble loss, this is why 1meg ohm pots get dark much faster, they are traveling from a 1000k impedance down to 0 in the same window that a 250/500k pot is so the resistance increases much faster. A 25/50k pot going from 10 to 0 had a nearly negligible increase in resistance across its throw meaning an imperceptible loss in treble. Your likely to find a 25-50k difference in any given CTS 500k pot (I've measured some as high as 530k and as low as 410k ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaoloJM Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 Yup, EMGs use those 25k pots. It's the increase in resistance that causes the treble loss, this is why 1meg ohm pots get dark much faster, they are traveling from a 1000k impedance down to 0 in the same window that a 250/500k pot is so the resistance increases much faster. A 25/50k pot going from 10 to 0 had a nearly negligible increase in resistance across its throw meaning an imperceptible loss in treble. Your likely to find a 25-50k difference in any given CTS 500k pot (I've measured some as high as 530k and as low as 410k ) That's a factor but it's mostly because an EMG has a much lower impedance than a passive pick up. It has enough current content in the signal to charge the amps input capacitance and thus have no toan suckage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Valtiel Posted January 31, 2012 Members Share Posted January 31, 2012 That's a factor but it's mostly because an EMG has a much lower impedance than a passive pick up.It has enough current content in the signal to charge the amps input capacitance and thus have no toan suckage. True, long runs of cable and effects have little to no effect on the tone, David Gilmour has said that this was why the red Strat came about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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