Members Savo Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 But it comes pre-loaded with badass amp/tones, as evidenced by the clip in the OP. You could use the unit as-is and never bother with the profiling stuff if you wanted. Half the fun of these modellers is experimenting with new tones. I know theres probably some great sounds in it already but i know i'd want to load in my own tones too. Like i said, im still considdering one but the over-reliance on the community is just a little off-putting for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Razsan Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 Does the Carr Rambler really sound like that??? Awesome if it does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 sounds good, is it clipping a bit at the beginning? Sounds like fun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 welcome to the club! killers clips and playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 i honestly have had ZERO guitar oriented gear gas in almost a year. This thread just changed that, thx bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 From what I gather, the barrage of varying noise that the Kemper sends through your amp during the Profiling process allows it to analyze and gather data about how the amp responds to said noise, and since the noises vary in frequency and power its able to gather how the amp reacts to varying voltage levels at different frequencies. This is how its able to capture the particular amp's dynamics, but only within the confines of how its setup. If you want to to profile your dimed plexi then I believe you need to have it dimed during the profiling process. And yes, whatever is inherently quirky about your amp would come through in the profiling process as long as those quirks have an audible impact on the tone or the feel of the amp. There are actually some things that the kemper "fixes" if you consider it that. In Chapper's big ass video here, later into the video when I think they're working with the cornford, he demonstrates how the real amp does this sort of squishy ultra compressed "flat line" on holding a note and the kemper doesn't which sounds SOOO much better than the actual cornford. to me that is incredibly impressive because it's something I've heard quite a few nice amps do. **EDIT** Go to right at the 41 minute mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dolf Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 Damn, man. The Kemper is scary good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members extollo Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 captures the lots o moving air thunk that lesser modelers dont seem to do so well. really good sounding recorded amp tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miter Gauge Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 Has anyone used a Kemper to model a Kemper? I wonder if it would cause a binary vortex of death. Let's do it! m/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miter Gauge Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 Damn... I just listened to some clips I am seriously impressed. Your playing is great by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zhorellski Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 How are the effects compard to the snax? Particularly the delays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Valtiel Posted April 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 i honestly have had ZERO guitar oriented gear gas in almost a year. This thread just changed that, thx bud.Anytime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerEvil Posted April 30, 2012 Members Share Posted April 30, 2012 Well, in case it hasn't been said enough ... great tones and playing. I really liked the Rad and Green Bogner patches as well as the AC20. This would be great for those of us who REALLY like our stage rigs but can't crank them loud enough at 2am or whenever it is convenient at home for recording. Profile it and have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted May 1, 2012 Members Share Posted May 1, 2012 Valid point you haz one I just feel as if I wouldn't go on "tonal explorations" enough to justify getting something like an axe or kemper. For me, just changing out guitars (ie. les paul to strat) causes me to be inspired or play differently. Well yeah, as always it's just down to the individual. I don't do that much tonal exploration, as my guitar playing time is usually spent practising or working on stuff that involves my main sounds. But at the same time, the Axe rig (aside from a little prac amp and a Smokey) is all I have now. If I ran some expensive tube amp rig for my main sound, yeah maybe it'd be a bit excessive to have an Axe to just piss about with when I wanted something different. Certainly would be for me, budget-wise. But for me, it's my main rig, and happens to double as a great pissing-about tool. Aside from the amps, stuff like the looper are also great fun to play around with. It also works wonderfully to piss off my band mates when I just play a riff once and then stand there doing nothing while it loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mats Nermark Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hi Valtiel, Sounds great. Are those Andy's rigs or have you made your own. If so, would you mind posting them? Cheers, Mats N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Valtiel Posted May 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Hi Valtiel,Sounds great. Are those Andy's rigs or have you made your own. If so, would you mind posting them?Cheers,Mats N The Bogner's, the Plexi, and the Carr are Andy's rigs. The AC20 and the Peavey 5150 are other user rigs as well, none of these are my own creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mats Nermark Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 The Bogner's, the Plexi, and the Carr are Andy's rigs. The AC20 and the Peavey 5150 are other user rigs as well, none of these are my own creation. Thanks! Mats N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 plexi and the slant 6 (?!?!) are my faves of the lot. that's some good sounding amp. good lord! how's it feel though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Valtiel Posted May 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 plexi and the slant 6 (?!?!) are my faves of the lot.that's some good sounding amp. good lord! how's it feel though? The feel is great! Its easy to fall into the trap of hating the way everything feels when you play at low volumes too much, which is very easy to do with modelers. Everything feels lifeless at apartment/conversation levels, the trick is making sure that lifelessness goes away when you bring the volume up and it absolutely does with the Kemper, just like a nice amp. That is of course if the Profile is solid because like I said earlier in the thread, there are a number of lousy profiles of very nice amps up there on the Kemper Rig Exchange that are none to pleasing to the ear or the hand, IMO at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 If you pull up a profile like the one these guys make in this video, does it really sound and FEEL like this sounds like it would?This tone is SPECTACULAR for not just a modeler but just period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 This tone is SPECTACULAR for not just a modeler but just period. So are Valtiel's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members almightycrunch Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 That is of course if the Profile is solid because like I said earlier in the thread, there are a number of lousy profiles of very nice amps up there on the Kemper Rig Exchange that are none to pleasing to the ear or the hand, IMO at least. Ok, so we know that profiles are based on "settings" from the original profilers amp, much like the soldano SLO profile on youtube from gold sound studios. The original sounded like {censored}, hence the profile sounded equally {censored}ty. It does however sound EXACTLY like the original. Wonder how much you are able to tweak a {censored}ty profile, to turn it into a great sounding profile???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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