Members Flogger59 Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 hey and didnt he daisy chain two Urei 1176 Universal compressors to get the sound on Black Dog? ....but seriously, sounds like middle pickup les paul/marshall on most (the ocean, etc.), i think a fender (tele/strat) on a couple others (dancing days, the crunge). Overdriving the Rolling Stone Mobile's Helios board as well. Triple tracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Old Fart Rocker Posted August 29, 2012 Members Share Posted August 29, 2012 Actually, a lot of Page's sound came from blending the two pups together. Since his LP had '50s style wiring, he had a lot more flexibility about the relative amount of each pup's output to the amp. Also, that tone is made of mids, so you'll want to dial back the bass treble and presence quite a bit. This....neck pickup volume on 5-6, bridge pickup volume on 8-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soundstorm Posted August 30, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 No, I'm not talking off any of the albums....fyi, the sound of Black Dog was three tracks of the guitar direct in overdriving the mixing console's preamp. THIS IS WHAT I'M AFTER:_ZiN_NqT-Us ZQgYn23Xvck I think all of his recorded tones were sub par compared to this live recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outtahear Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 Might wanna give one of these a go:[video=youtube;LIQp1WRXP8s] BareKnuckle Pickups make a Page inspired set (Black Dogs) that'll help you get (perhaps) close to what you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 We're both correct (though I was just bs'n). Interview with Jimmy Page, Guitar World magazine, 1993 "We put my Les Paul through a direct box, and from there into a mic channel. We used the mic amp of the mixing board to get distortion. Then we ran it through two Urei 1176 Universal compressors in series. Then each line was triple-tracked. Curiously, I was listening to that track when we were reviewing the tapes and the guitars almost sound like an analog synthesizer." And for the live stuff, depends on how faithful you want. Speakers on the edge of "fried" have a certain sound to them that can't be recreated (but will practically make you physically sick being pushed by a plexi). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 watt Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 From the live recordings Ive heard, Page's Live tone > Studio. (though I really love his studio tones on Physical Graphitti) . Teh Rover = boner inducing. My fave Page riff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeppelin Rules Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 From the live recordings Ive heard, Page's Live tone > Studio. (though I really love his studio tones on Physical Graphitti) . Teh Rover = boner inducing. My fave Page riff My favourite thing on that track is at the start during the drum intro, you can hear a bit of phased drums from the bleed into the guitar mics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members draelyc Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 Actually, a lot of Page's sound came from blending the two pups together. Since his LP had '50s style wiring, he had a lot more flexibility about the relative amount of each pup's output to the amp. Also, that tone is made of mids, so you'll want to dial back the bass treble and presence quite a bit. What was different about the '50s style wiring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 watt Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 My favourite thing on that track is at the start during the drum intro, you can hear a bit of phased drums from the bleed into the guitar mics. Yeah. Ive noticed that. Very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bullhead Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 One thing that's KEY (and I can't believe anybody's mentioned) is that his Superleads always were modified to accept KT88s. Would be key info if you're trying to build said amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flogger59 Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 BareKnuckle Pickups make a Page inspired set (Black Dogs) that'll help you get (perhaps) close to what you're looking for. RAH was a Hiwatt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members outtahear Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 True, but listen to the clip and compare it to the TSRS clip-fairly close, and Howard's running the RAH into a clean Fender.(and you do realize the Pre-amp in Pages (custom) HIWATTS are closer to Marshalls than stock DR HIWATTS?)Think a 50 watt Marshall clone w/chineese KT88's is gonna sound closer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cropduster Posted August 30, 2012 Members Share Posted August 30, 2012 Get a Germino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 watt Posted August 31, 2012 Members Share Posted August 31, 2012 One thing that's KEY (and I can't believe anybody's mentioned) is that his Superleads always were modified to accept KT88s. Would be key info if you're trying to build said amp. They did have 88's (and one had a 4th pre-amp tube & an FX loop) , but does anyone know what point they were converted to take the 88's? I read somewhere (maybe @ Metro Amp) that it's possible the KT88's werent in there until the 80's. (?) I think for page tones (Marshall anyway), KT88's & a pedal would be the best choice. A Superbass with KT88's can be a very versitile amp . Makes an awesome "pedal pushed" platform. Add a master volume, & you're golden, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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