Members smokeynichol Posted October 9, 2010 Members Share Posted October 9, 2010 just wondering if anyone out there has had an acoustic dreadnaught ovangkol as opposed to rosewood-- back and sides-how do they compare with each other to deep bassy al asround sound????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitarVlog Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 I don't have an ovangkol dread. FWIW, ovangkol is supposedly equivalent to rosewood in tone. Bubinga is supposedly equivalent to Brazilian rosewood in tone. Neither alternative tonewood has drawn much attention for their excellent tone and unique beauty ... mainly because they are cheap. Go figure. EDIT: If you're looking for an alternative to mahogany, it's lacewood. Lacewood supposedly has the tonal characteristics of aged mahogany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oldskool Texas Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Aren't Taylor's 400-series guitars made from Ovangkol? Lots of folks here have those, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmay8612 Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 James Goodall makes guitars with Bubinga back and sides, very pretty. My aunt has a piano thats Bubinga. I'd have considered buying a Bubinga Goodall, but liked the Blackwood much better. Probably has more to do with the tops than anything though from what I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hudman Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Aren't Taylor's 400-series guitars made from Ovangkol? Lots of folks here have those, IIRC. You are correct. I don't own one but would love to. I love the look of ovangkol. It's gorgeous wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitar_goob Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 I read an article in "Wood & Steel" a while back. Here's a chart they used to differentiate between tone woods. The dotted lines signify where the guitar will "open up" with time. So the way I read it, Ovangkol has a warmer mid range where as the Rosewood is more balanced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitar_goob Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Sorry, meant to post the link too - here ya go http://www.taylorguitars.com/guitars/features/woods/Tone/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeArta Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Bubinga is supposedly equivalent to Brazilian rosewood in tone.Neither alternative tonewood has drawn much attention for their excellent tone and unique beauty ... mainly because they are cheap.Go figure. "Cheap" is a relative term. While my J-100 XTRA is not a 3K guitar, I don't consider it" cheap" and will attest to the excellent tone of bubinga. I'd buy another bubinga Gibson in heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kbar422 Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Ovangkol is just a reversed rosewood, meaning that the bass and trebble response are the same but rosewood is known for not having much mid range which makes it ideal for vocals since your voice is mid range, ovangkol has a much higher mid range. I own both guitars and i tend to pick up the rosewood body more for what I am doing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members smokeynichol Posted October 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Ovangkol is just a reversed rosewood, meaning that the bass and trebble response are the same but rosewood is known for not having much mid range which makes it ideal for vocals since your voice is mid range, ovangkol has a much higher mid range. I own both guitars and i tend to pick up the rosewood body more for what I am doing now. so here i am having to decide between rosewood and ovangkol-in basically the same guitar-the Tak Tan 16c(rosewood) and the Tak tan 16Cov(Ovangkol)-i play country, bluegrass,etc., so iam asking which guitar would suit that musical style more??? thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sixgunner455 Posted October 10, 2010 Members Share Posted October 10, 2010 Both will do wonderfully. Pick the one you like playing best. If it's a question of ordering it, pick the one you like the look of better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PieterH Posted October 14, 2010 Members Share Posted October 14, 2010 cheap or cheap? My Taylor 414 may not be in Brazillian rosewood territory price wise but wasn't the cheapest git on the block either. And personally I think the wood looks lovely, but maybe I just have an example with very nice grain and well book-matched. A bit lighter and slightly yellower wood visually compared to rosewood. Isn't Ovangkol related to rosewood biologically? Sound wise I can confirm the quality of the bass tones - one of the first things I noticed when I got mine was the richness of the low bass end. I have never tried a 414LTD with rosewood back and sides and the 700 series is all-gloss finish etc so a side by side comparison of the two woods isn't really possible I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted October 14, 2010 Members Share Posted October 14, 2010 I don't have an ovangkol dread. FWIW, ovangkol is supposedly equivalent to rosewood in tone. Bubinga is supposedly equivalent to Brazilian rosewood in tone. . . . Odd. My old 12-string has bubinga back and sides and I find it more similar to mahogany than anything else. I wouldn't think it would sound like rosewood of any species but here are the expert opinions: John Calkin http://www.guitarnation.com/articles/calkin.htm Bubinga. This is a wonderful wood in every respect. It is as hard as the rosewoods, but has a finer texture with no pores to fill. It bends easily and holds its' shape. The brownish-purple color is close enough to rosewood to look familiar. To top it off, bubinga is cheap even from tonewood suppliers. The only hitch is that you can't sell a bubinga guitar. Call it African rosewood, its' inaccurate nickname, and you'll have no problem. Flatsawn bubinga shows a stunning bee's-wing pattern. Quartered wood is plainer, but still pretty. I like this wood a ton. It deserves more recognition. Chris Herrod http://www.lmii.com/carttwo/alttonewoods.asp The remaining rosewood alternatives, on the other hand, are relatively inexpensive and easy to come by. From Africa there's bubinga, which has a nice reddish-mauve brown color and often sports an interesting 'bees-wing' figure that gives a nice three-dimensional shimmer to wood under finish. Paul Woolson http://www.woolsonsoundcraft.com/Tonewoods/tonewoods.html Bubinga is quickly becoming a favorite wood with custom builders, and may soon find its way into large production shops. This wood, which comes from Africa, has a tremendously rich sound replete with warm even tones and a brilliant sparkle across the entire spectrum. It is plentiful and available in a wide variety of cosmetic appearances. Typically Bubinga has a mottled "bees-wing" appearance under finish that is absolutely gorgeous, and also can be acquired with strong ropey curl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members panther_king Posted October 14, 2010 Members Share Posted October 14, 2010 Neither alternative tonewood has drawn much attention for their excellent tone and unique beauty ... mainly because they are cheap. Not only is it less expensive, a big reason why some builders are moving to those woods is that they are SUSTAINABLE. They grow relatively quickly, in releatively easy to manage environments. Yeah, they're cheap to buy in blanks and logs for manufacturers, but it's cheap because it's common and easy to replace, not because it's bad wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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