Members paul44 Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 So fake it hurts.He's even charging twice the normal postage. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-2002-in-Immaculate-Condition_W0QQitemZ7413941444QQcategoryZ33040QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abstract Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 i wonder if HE got burned? and is passing the flame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by paul44 So fake it hurts.He's even charging twice the normal postage.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gibson-Les-Paul-Custom-2002-in-Immaculate-Condition_W0QQitemZ7413941444QQcategoryZ33040QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Most likely one of them poor blokes who bought one of the countless fakes sold on eBay UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul44 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 I've just mailed him.Be interesting to see what he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHITE-SG-JUNIOR-WITH-GIBSON-STRINGS-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ7411348920 Tsk, tsk, tsk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul44 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 At least the SG guy says it is a copy.The LP guy is telling you you're buying a real Gibson,that's what annoyed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Doesn't matter what he says, or doesn't It's both illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by paul44 I've just mailed him.Be interesting to see what he says. I doubt that he'll answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Remind me NOT to shop at eBay UK http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genuine-USA-Gibson-Les-Paul_W0QQitemZ7413001213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members walfordr Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by ArKay Remind me NOT to shop at eBay UK http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genuine-USA-Gibson-Les-Paul_W0QQitemZ7413001213 Not from this guy anyway. Check item number 7408590767 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by walfordr Not from this guy anyway. Check item number 7408590767 Oh, from his history it seems quite obvious that he bought a couple of items from our favorite Chinese sellers http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=komodrg&iid=7413001213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul44 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 I've just reported him.It's obvious from his history that he's just passing on Chinese fakes.This is getting out of hand,99% of the Gibson listings are Chinese fakes.Surely it wouldn't be that difficult to pull them all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by paul44 I've just reported him.It's obvious from his history that he's just passing on Chinese fakes. This is getting out of hand,99% of the Gibson listings are Chinese fakes.Surely it wouldn't be that difficult to pull them all? I've been telling people here for weeks that eBay UK is going down Here's what Gibson had to say when I wrote them: Dear Mr. XXX, Thank you for your E-mail. There are indeed quite a lot of fake guitars on E-bay at the moment, but our brand protection department is already working on it. It is indeed illegal to make and sell these guitars, so I really appreciate your attentiveness and concerns. For the moment we have to wait for the procedures of our brand protection department to end. I can also reply to you in German, as Gibson added this support to their services as well. If you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact me again or go to our webpage www.gibson.com/de My best regards, YYY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 That's a really strange Les Paul Custom, isn't it? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7413248915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ancient Mariner Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 I wonder if they're any good as guitars. I'd almost be tempted to buy one (from China) then remove the Gibson logo. But as for Ebay.co.uk going down, I think you're taking the wrong medication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Ancient Mariner I wonder if they're any good as guitars. I'd almost be tempted to buy one (from China) then remove the Gibson logo. But as for Ebay.co.uk going down, I think you're taking the wrong medication. Right, it must be wayyyyyy past that point http://link.toolbot.com/ebay.co.uk/15177 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Soul Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by Ancient Mariner I wonder if they're any good as guitars. I'd almost be tempted to buy one (from China) then remove the Gibson logo. why? Thats half of black market fun! Im really tempted to pick one up myself.Ive got a thing for the old japanese lawsuit era stuff, and Im sure this stuff dosent compare (yet) but I think it would be funny to own a knock off that actually has correct logos and what not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 I think for that money you can get 2 or 3 decent guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goblinsolutions Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 i woudl be carefull with the chinese stuff.. i have bought the following copies recently ibanez jem- absolute {censored}...no use whatsover( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Yup, they're known for stealing pictures from other auctions so you cannot even be sure that what you see is what you get. The Brian May clone must be a Dillion, which would be Korean IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members supercow3 Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 There are so many of these fae guitars these days that ebay is getting boring:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul44 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 I just got a reply back from the guy selling the fake LP. This is what I sent... 'This is not a genuine Gibson.There are several things that mark it out as a fake.The headstock shape is wrong,genuine Gibson's don't have 3 hole truss rod covers,the wonky split-diamond inlay is just a joke.The knobs are also located in the wrong place. I would suggest you alter your listing accordingly before someone reports it.' He's just replied with this... 'Hello. I did not know this and thank you for pointing this out.' Ok then,let's see if he amends his listing....not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by paul44 I just got a reply back from the guy selling the fake LP. This is what I sent... 'This is not a genuine Gibson.There are several things that mark it out as a fake.The headstock shape is wrong,genuine Gibson's don't have 3 hole truss rod covers,the wonky split-diamond inlay is just a joke.The knobs are also located in the wrong place. I would suggest you alter your listing accordingly before someone reports it.' He's just replied with this... 'Hello. I did not know this and thank you for pointing this out.' Ok then,let's see if he amends his listing....not holding my breath. I doubt it, but Mmmm'kay, we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goblinsolutions Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 that explains why the brian may is good then.is dillion a factory? the guy i know is married to a korean and goes direct to factory so i knows hes not reselling.I have seen other small companies re-badge the same guitars he gets,sometimes at mutch higher prices. Chap i deal with would never try and pass one of as an original gibson /ibanez etc...he doesnt put dodgy logos on them.Course that doesnt stop buyers doing it then resellign on ebay the korean guitar copies are generally pretty good,chinese stuff sucks. They seem to use ok parts,but the machining and production is appalling.The jem i have is impossible to get a decent action out of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ArKay Posted May 10, 2006 Members Share Posted May 10, 2006 Originally posted by goblinsolutions that explains why the brian may is good then.is dillion a factory? the guy i know is married to a korean and goes direct to factory so i knows hes not reselling.I have seen other small companies re-badge the same guitars he gets,sometimes at mutch higher prices. Chap i deal with would never try and pass one of as an original gibson /ibanez etc...he doesnt put dodgy logos on them.Course that doesnt stop buyers doing it then resellign on ebay the korean guitar copies are generally pretty good,chinese stuff sucks. They seem to use ok parts,but the machining and production is appalling.The jem i have is impossible to get a decent action out of I think you got a Dillion because you mentioned that it had the wrong pickups. Might be the Dillion DBM04T. Dillion is a Korean company. http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Dillion/DBM04T-1.html There also good Chinese guitars, I got 2 of those, nice clones. They were imported by a German dealer bearing his logo, that's pretty common. Got one LP clone and a hollowbody. You're right about the Ibanez fakes, those are usually done on the very cheap and are of low quality. There's a whole section on ibanezrules.com devoted to those http://www.ibanezrules.com/fakes.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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