Members ZOMBI5150 Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 is Your guitar an Agile:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members ZOMBI5150 Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Originally posted by apostrophe Is yours? A Jagstang didn't You see My sig:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members apostrophe Posted August 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 No I do not have an Agile.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg Bogoshian Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 I am at a loss here... "No change" across the entire adjustment range of a TOM just can't be unless one or more of the core wires of the wound E string is broken... If his action was set way high, the fretted note would go sharp, not flat. The only thing I can think of is that the bridge has somehow either been re-located or was originally installed in the grossly wrong position to begin with. It could always be flat if that was the case, but you would still see some change in how flat with change in saddle location. This is not making sense at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LaXu Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 What brand strings are you using? I've had DR strings where one string could not be intonated no matter what. On the guitar I had to actually take the saddle (it was a Wilkinson VS100 so the saddle could be lifted out of its groove and placed further on the trem plate) and move it WAY forward to get intonation working. When I replaced the string I returned the saddle to where it belongs and had no intonation problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HalTan Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Have you stretched your new strings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members apostrophe Posted August 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Originally posted by Greg Bogoshian I am at a loss here... "No change" across the entire adjustment range of a TOM just can't be unless one or more of the core wires of the wound E string is broken... If his action was set way high, the fretted note would go sharp, not flat. The only thing I can think of is that the bridge has somehow either been re-located or was originally installed in the grossly wrong position to begin with. It could always be flat if that was the case, but you would still see some change in how flat with change in saddle location. This is not making sense at all... I too am at a loss! It doesn't make any sense! And it wasn't just the low E, it was the A also! After I couldn't get the intonation of the A to change at all either, I put the guitar away and called it a night! The Dot is a 2005 and I bought it brand new last August. I am using D'Addario 11-50 with wound G.... ....I MUST be doing something wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Originally posted by Greg Bogoshian I am at a loss here... "No change" across the entire adjustment range of a TOM just can't be unless one or more of the core wires of the wound E string is broken... If his action was set way high, the fretted note would go sharp, not flat. The only thing I can think of is that the bridge has somehow either been re-located or was originally installed in the grossly wrong position to begin with. It could always be flat if that was the case, but you would still see some change in how flat with change in saddle location. This is not making sense at all... I agree...it HAS to change, even if it can't be made perfect. If a core wire in the low E were broken, he probably couldn't have tuned the guitar in the first place. I'm flummoxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Originally posted by LaXu What brand strings are you using? I've had DR strings where one string could not be intonated no matter what. On the guitar I had to actually take the saddle (it was a Wilkinson VS100 so the saddle could be lifted out of its groove and placed further on the trem plate) and move it WAY forward to get intonation working. When I replaced the string I returned the saddle to where it belongs and had no intonation problems. I guess it's possible that if a string had inconsistencies in diameter over its length, that the position of harmonic nodes might be screwed up, and that the frequencies of the fretted notes might be peculiar and impossible to intonate. I've never encountered this, but hey, it could happen.A $4.00 set of new D'Addarios is cheaper than a trip to the tech.I'd try fresh strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Raising or lowering the tailpiece could compensate for an inability to intonate. I had to raise the tailpiece on my 7 string to get my low B to intonate. Having said that, you should still hear some kind of change in intonation by just moving the saddles back and forth. If you arent then that is really odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members apostrophe Posted August 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 One lovingly home cooked meal to the one that comes over and figures out what I am doing wrong! Come on, I'll make my homemade pasta sauce and you'll have the best Gnocchi you ever tasted! Plus my wife will make a pie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Guy Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Originally posted by apostrophe One lovingly home cooked meal to the one that comes over and figures out what I am doing wrong! Come on, I'll make my homemade pasta sauce and you'll have the best Gnocchi you ever tasted! Plus my wife will make a pie! Send the guitar, gnocchi and pie to me. I'll fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members apostrophe Posted August 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Originally posted by Richard Guy Send the guitar, gnocchi and pie to me. I'll fix it See, I knew that would do it! I'll do anything for Gnocchi and some pie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Richard Guy Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 I am warming up my Peterson 490 ST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg Bogoshian Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 There you go... Send me the guitar and I will set it up KILLAH for ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members apostrophe Posted August 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Ah, Rochester....my second home! I graduated from RIT! What are you doing up in those parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg Bogoshian Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Trying to keep food on the table... Building guitars and amps when I am not working at Xerox. Lived here my whole life except for '70-'72 when I went to school in Boston... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members apostrophe Posted August 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Building guitars?! That tears it! Im coming to Rochester with Gnocchi, pie, and one poorly intonated gittar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dughaze Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Originally posted by LaXu What brand strings are you using? I've had DR strings where one string could not be intonated no matter what. On the guitar I had to actually take the saddle (it was a Wilkinson VS100 so the saddle could be lifted out of its groove and placed further on the trem plate) and move it WAY forward to get intonation working. When I replaced the string I returned the saddle to where it belongs and had no intonation problems. Intonation with DR's for me too on several guitars...rediculous. No more DR strings for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Level Frets Posted August 24, 2006 Members Share Posted August 24, 2006 Yeah handmade strings are joke. You have to re-intonate the guitar everytime you change them. D'addarios seem to be the most consistant to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members apostrophe Posted August 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 25, 2006 Holy crap! I effed {censored} up so royally last night!!!! I tried to lower the PU and lowered it too far! Now the two screw/springs that lower/raise the PU are loose and I can't get them back into the PU!! I can see the two little holes they are suppused to go into but I cant get them both to go back! Man I REALLY dont know wtf I am doing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dwerlin Posted August 25, 2006 Members Share Posted August 25, 2006 Originally posted by apostrophe Holy crap! I effed {censored} up so royally last night!!!!I tried to lower the PU and lowered it too far! Now the two screw/springs that lower/raise the PU are loose and I can't get them back into the PU!!I can see the two little holes they are suppused to go into but I cant get them both to go back!Man I REALLY dont know wtf I am doing!!! get your ass to a tech before you do some real damage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg Bogoshian Posted August 25, 2006 Members Share Posted August 25, 2006 Yeah... Go up Rte 9 to 81 and take that to 690 and that to 90. Head west. We're the first major city on the right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members apostrophe Posted August 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 25, 2006 I feel like such a dumbass! But live and learn I suppose....I've never done this before! It's just going to be embarrassing when I go in there and explain why the PU is pratically inside the body of the guitar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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