Members sk8centilli Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 If jpage had a crappy guitar with a harsh ss amp he might not be the guitar hero today. Are you sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaulSter Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 i don't know if it's necessarily any more or less annoying than the microscopically examined silly little details that, by and large, have neither negative nor positive nor ANY truly noticeable effect on "tone." i do know it's a hell of a lot easier to go out and buy some {censored} as opposed to sitting down and just learning. it's easy to get so wrapped up in gear that playing almost becomes secondary. which kinda sucks.and yeah, frets with his arsenal of budget priced gear is a perfect example of not needing the top-o-the-line best ever {censored} to sound totally awesome. No disagreement there either. PaulS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DAFSTRAT Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Tone is in the quality of the drugs you take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DAFSTRAT Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Are you sure about that? I like his shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katintokyo Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Obviously, giving someone a les paul with a marshall amp isnt gonna automatically make them the next jimmy page. If jpage had a crappy guitar with a harsh ss amp he might not be the guitar hero today. there is of course one way to test this easily and somewhat safely... not entirely safely, but whatever. Stick your fingers down your throat and see what kind of tone you get!!! It always worked for my ex-girlfriend. She had tone and sustain for days!! This thread sucks. Old and boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DAFSTRAT Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 there is of course one way to test this easily and somewhat safely... not entirely safely, but whatever. Stick your fingers down your throat and see what kind of tone you get!!! It always worked for my ex-girlfriend. She had tone and sustain for days!! This thread sucks. Old and boring. Ever tried shagging a girl from behind when she's having a hurl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katintokyo Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Ever tried shagging a girl from behind when she's having a hurl? that was just rude... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members freetime Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Its all in the fingers. Amps, fx, and guitars don't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DAFSTRAT Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 that was just rude... lol. Rude is good my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Don't be a hater. Too many people spend so much time talking about gear around here. It's always good to be reminded that the common denominator everyone should never forget is technique. One guy might rip off a fury of notes over four bars, while another can strike a note just so, hold it, bend it, and milk it for four bars. Either could be masterful or horrible in their execution. And both guys are gonna sound like themselves whether they are holding a DiPinto or a Jackson V... whether plugged into a Pignose or a 5150. On the other hand, I guess it could be annoying if one is inquiring about pickups or speakers, etc. and some tool drops the tone is in the fingers line. Assuming they aren't implying that the target of their message needs to practice more, then shrug it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wimpy77 Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 i think tone comes from the guitar, amp and the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleepeatplay Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Don't be a hater. Too many people spend so much time talking about gear around here. It's always good to be reminded that the common denominator everyone should never forget is technique. One guy might rip off a fury of notes over four bars, while another can strike a note just so, hold it, bend it, and milk it for four bars. Either could be masterful or horrible in their execution. And both guys are gonna sound like themselves whether they are holding a DiPinto or a Jackson V... whether plugged into a Pignose or a 5150. On the other hand, I guess it could be annoying if one is inquiring about pickups or speakers, etc. and some tool drops the tone is in the fingers line. Assuming they aren't implying that the target of their message needs to practice more, then shrug it off. I for one, don't buy "the tone is in your sphincter", as much as I buy "it's technique." My brother came over the other night, he probably had not seen me play in 20 years, and his comment to his 23 yr. old son was, "his sound is killer, it's the technique he uses". Then the bastard says "you are still really good, but you used to be better". I wanted to choke the {censored} out of him!:lol: BTW, They both play guitar of course. The cool part was I still have great chops. I can tell the tone difference in my different axes+amp, but it is still "me" playing. I'm picking up my scalloped neck tomorrow from usps. It is going to my tech along with my AXL SRO. Another mod on the way...I'll find out how good my "finger tone" is soon enough I guess......:cop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ferdinandstrat Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 If tone was in my fingers I would sound so much better then what I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members loganonymous Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Tone is in the Soul. Nothing but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burgess Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Obviously, giving someone a les paul with a marshall amp isnt gonna automatically make them the next jimmy page. If jpage had a crappy guitar with a harsh ss amp he might not be the guitar hero today. Not the greatest pics but... ...don't fool yourself. Jimmy Page was always destined for greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Professor Tom Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 I think this "tone is in the fingers" thing is just an inaccurate way of desribing a player with a great touch as opposed to the usual ham fisted player who doesn't practice enough. In my experience not many players have a good touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members plasticscouse Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 I'm reminded of a David Gilmour video, he was playing his 54 00001 Strat instead of his usual guitar on stage, still sounded like him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr Wanker Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 The "tone is in the fingers" has nothing to do with your physical finger ends, as some dough heads here seem to think, but what you do with them. How you touch the string, your attack, the way you hold the pick, your choice of notes etc. I still sound like me when I play a Tele into a Fender Twin, but I don't sound the same as when I play a Les Paul into a Marshall. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kitarist Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 the funny thing is that people think when they will have a 3000 guitar and 3000 amp... that their technique will improve. It will not.. Most people confuse tone with technique in playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Tone is pitch or timbre to me. And its a sum of all parts IMHO. If you suck at guitar and have nice gear, you will sound like crap. If you have a crappy gear and great skill it will sound like someone with skill playing on garbage. If you have crappy gear and no talent you will sound like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Musicscotty Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Tone is in the amplifier! And, that's the secret to how Jack White is able to get some great tones out of a plastic guitar.But, if you've watched enough of Frets99's videos, you know what the phrase, "Tone is in the fingers," really means. No matter what gear Frets uses, it sounds like Frets! Tone is in the fingers, the amp, the guitar, the pedals...the gear. In the hierarchy of importance for great tone, the player is more important than the gear. Absolutely correct. I've always approached it this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grantus Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 But, if you've watched enough of Frets99's videos, you know what the phrase, "Tone is in the fingers," really means. No matter what gear Frets uses, it sounds like Frets! Tone is in the fingers, the amp, the guitar, the pedals...the gear. In the hierarchy of importance for great tone, the player is more important than the gear. Exactly. Tone isn't exclusively in the fingers, and I'd think most people in the "tone is in the fingers crowd" would agree with that. But the fingers, and what you do with them, has a major impact on tone. Good gear also has an impact. But some great players get good tone out of what a lot of people would think is crap gear, and a lot of bad players get crap tone out of expensive equipment. Tone is in the player's technique, the player's mood, the amp, the guitar, the effects, the cables .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 3red Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 if jimmy page had a crappy guitar and ss amp crappy guitars and ss amps would cost 10k today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jayers Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 Obviously, giving someone a les paul with a marshall amp isnt gonna automatically make them the next jimmy page. If jpage had a crappy guitar with a harsh ss amp he might not be the guitar hero today. This is patently bull{censored}. Jimmy Page, with his engineers and producers that he had, would have pulled off what he did with SX and Agiles, and Bugera and Peavey amps. You can not buy your way to being Jimmy Page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members snaredrum Posted September 26, 2008 Members Share Posted September 26, 2008 So the tone is in your rectum? what if my fingers are in my ass? do i get double tone points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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