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  • D.I. Egnater Rebel 30 or Line6 HD500

    Guys, I'm going D.I, playing a variety of music with clean and dirty sounds, (using Yamaha SG's with humbuckers) and I want to keep the set up light and compact.

    The dilemma is, should I get an Egnater Rebel 30 head (with my current pedal board Boss ME70) or Line6 HD500.

    I can get either set up for a similar price, I was leaning towards the HD500, but the tubist in me (and simplicity of tweakage) is pulling me the other way.

    So, tube or modeller? Opinions please!

  • #2
    Why do you want the HD500 if you have the ME70? The ME70 has amp modeling in it and direct out. Just buy a real tube amp at this point instead of a second modeler/multi fx unit.
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    • #3
      Why do you want the HD500 if you have the ME70? The ME70 has amp modeling in it and direct out. Just buy a real tube amp at this point instead of a second modeler/multi fx unit.


      I'm not keen on the ME70 modelling, i thought the HD500 was supposed to be a big step up in terms of modelling, no?

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      • #4
        Rebel nuf said

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        • #5
          I took the modeller route several months ago and have not regretted it once. I still have my tube amps, but I rarely fire them up because the HD500 does everything I need it to.

          No one can decide for you which direction you need to go. It's all about what you want to get out of your rig. Do you want dozens of amps and a hundred effects in a little box or an amp with a handful of good sounds?

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          • #6
            I'm not keen on the ME70 modelling, i thought the HD500 was supposed to be a big step up in terms of modelling, no?


            I will agree that Line6 has entrenched themselves as the standard for modeling right now, but the Boss is not so bad that it warrants the purchase of an entirely different unit. I have recorded several things with Line6 gear and I never felt like any of it compared to a real amp. All modelers feel like, good digital copies, not the real thing.

            Here is another thing to consider, whether you record with the Boss or Line 6, once it's all said and done the quality of the tone will be about the same between the two modelers. I would give the Boss a chance before buying a second multi fx and just buy the amp. Plus everyone needs a good tube amp around the house.

            When I get home after work, I'll show you two songs. One with a modeler (POD 2.0) and one with my current setup which is Boss ME50 into Blackstar HT1R head. Then you can compare with yourself.
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            2001 Fender Fat Strat
            1997 Squire Strat Project

            Blackstar HT1RH w/ 1x12 Eminence Cab

            Boss ME-50
            Whammy IV -> Vox 847 Wah ->TS9 -> Phase 90 -> DigiDelay -> Boss GE7 EQ

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            • #7
              I took the modeller route several months ago and have not regretted it once. I still have my tube amps, but I rarely fire them up because the HD500 does everything I need it to.

              No one can decide for you which direction you need to go. It's all about what you want to get out of your rig. Do you want dozens of amps and a hundred effects in a little box or an amp with a handful of good sounds?


              Actually, I think you've nailed it right there, "a handful of good sounds."

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              • #8
                I will agree that Line6 has entrenched themselves as the standard for modeling right now, but the Boss is not so bad that it warrants the purchase of an entirely different unit. I have recorded several things with Line6 gear and I never felt like any of it compared to a real amp. All modelers feel like, good digital copies, not the real thing.

                Here is another thing to consider, whether you record with the Boss or Line 6, once it's all said and done the quality of the tone will be about the same between the two modelers. I would give the Boss a chance before buying a second multi fx and just buy the amp. Plus everyone needs a good tube amp around the house.

                When I get home after work, I'll show you two songs. One with a modeler (POD 2.0) and one with my current setup which is Boss ME50 into Blackstar HT1R head. Then you can compare with yourself.


                Points taken, cheers.

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                • #9
                  Try the H&K Tubemeister 18 or 36 and the have the excellent Red Box DI
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                  • #10
                    I have an ME70, and it is going back in favor of an HD 500. The preset storage system alone is enough to compel me to switch. 8 banks of 64 to create set lists? Perfect. I find the ME 70 cryptic. THE HD seems far more laid out for live.
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                    • #11
                      Listen to these two songs recorded. The first one one, Grand Theft Auto, was recorded with a 1-watt tube amp going direct into the computer. The second track, suffocate, was recorded with a POD 2.0 going straight into a mixing board.

                      http://soundcloud.com/elsupermanny14/tracks

                      Take a look and listen for yourself. You can compare modeler vs tube amp.
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                      Boss ME-50
                      Whammy IV -> Vox 847 Wah ->TS9 -> Phase 90 -> DigiDelay -> Boss GE7 EQ

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                      • #12

                        Take a look and listen for yourself. You can compare modeler vs tube amp.


                        The POD 2.0 is over 10 years old. It's no comparison to the HD500, in any way, and not representative of modern modeling.
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                        • #13
                          I owned an HD500 for 6 months. While I don't think it's perfect, it has a lot of great sounds in that box. It's definitely a big step forward in terms of both feel and sound for Line 6. It's the best realism Line 6 has achieved up to this point. If I hadn't purchased an Eleven Rack, I'd still be using the HD. But, I still have no intention of getting rid of my amps.
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                          • #14
                            The POD 2.0 is over 10 years old. It's no comparison to the HD500, in any way, and not representative of modern modeling.


                            HD500 is no comparison to a real amp. I think the HD500 is a good modeler and probably one of the best out there. However, the HD500 is still not on par with a real amp. The OP already has a modeler, he should probably get a capable amp instead of a second modeler. After he records something, mixes, and adds effects, I promise you that the difference in tone between both modelers will be negligible.
                            "Man who stand on toilet seat is high on pot"

                            The Squier Army
                            The "Official" Stratocaster Club


                            2010 Gisbon Les Paul Studio
                            2001 Fender Fat Strat
                            1997 Squire Strat Project

                            Blackstar HT1RH w/ 1x12 Eminence Cab

                            Boss ME-50
                            Whammy IV -> Vox 847 Wah ->TS9 -> Phase 90 -> DigiDelay -> Boss GE7 EQ

                            Good Transactions: PunkKitty, MetalGuitar08, conky

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                            • #15
                              I went for the Egnater Rebel 30 head, in black. What a sweet little amp! And I got it at a great price (way,way,way cheaper online than in the same company's shop!) Thanks for all your opinions!

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