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  • N3 noiseless or custom '69 pickups?

    I'm redoing my '99 fender MIM strat and looking to get it back to a classic strat tone. It's had some humbuckers in it for a while but now that I have a couple of good guitars with humbuckers in them I'd like to get a good single coil guitar.



    I like what I've heard of the custom '69s but they're hard to find installed in a store so that I can try them out myself; there doesn't seem to be a lot of stock models with them.



    With the N3s, I've read a few reviews and played a couple of american strats that sounded pretty good but I was curious if anyone had any comments on their experiences with them and also if anyone has tried out both of these sets.



    I'm thinking of getting trying out some more N3s and getting the '69s and asking if there's any chance of returning them for the N3s, if I end up not liking them. I'm not sure how much stores like getting back pickups that have been installed or if that's even an option.



    My concerns for each set are the potential for noise with the '69s and potentially lower signal levels, which might not be a problem and for the N3s having the wiring used to clean up the noise detract from the overall quality of the tone.



    Anyways any comments on this would be really appreciated. Sorry for rambling.



    Thanks,

    Mike

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    Some will argue but I believe you are always compromising on tone when you go noiseless so I vote against the N3's. Check this site out, very good examples.



    http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/Picku...Clips-W60.aspx
    One MIA Fender Strat, one Gibson Les Paul, one Martin Acoustic, what more do you need?

    http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/...ps92b32f13.gif

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    • #3
      Some will argue but I believe you are always compromising on tone when you go noiseless so I vote against the N3's. Check this site out, very good examples.



      http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/Picku...Clips-W60.aspx
      One MIA Fender Strat, one Gibson Les Paul, one Martin Acoustic, what more do you need?

      http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/...ps92b32f13.gif

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      • #4






        Quote Originally Posted by billybilly
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        Some will argue but I believe you are always compromising on tone when you go noiseless so I vote against the N3's. Check this site out, very good examples.



        http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/Picku...Clips-W60.aspx






        Thanks. I've seen that sight before; it's how I have settled on the '69s. I was curious about the Fralins but I didn't hear a noticeable enough difference to make it worth the money right now. I'm probably leaning more towards the '69s but I didn't know if maybe people here had a strong opinion one way or the other on the N3s.



        Thanks for the response!

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        • #5






          Quote Originally Posted by billybilly
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          Some will argue but I believe you are always compromising on tone when you go noiseless so I vote against the N3's. Check this site out, very good examples.



          http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/Picku...Clips-W60.aspx






          Thanks. I've seen that sight before; it's how I have settled on the '69s. I was curious about the Fralins but I didn't hear a noticeable enough difference to make it worth the money right now. I'm probably leaning more towards the '69s but I didn't know if maybe people here had a strong opinion one way or the other on the N3s.



          Thanks for the response!

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          • #6
            I love the 69s in my classic player strat but if modding a guitar I would probably be inclined to go with Ros

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            • #7
              I love the 69s in my classic player strat but if modding a guitar I would probably be inclined to go with Ros

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                Quote Originally Posted by kit_strong
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                I love the 69s in my classic player strat but if modding a guitar I would probably be inclined to go with Ros

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                  Quote Originally Posted by kit_strong
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                  I love the 69s in my classic player strat but if modding a guitar I would probably be inclined to go with Ros

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                    Quote Originally Posted by mh0520
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                    I've never heard of either of those companies until now. I'm fairly naive in terms of pickups; I've pretty much only heard the big names and a few of the boutique names. Does anyone else have any comments on either of these other companies? The price tag is definitely appealing.



                    Thanks for sharing.




                    In all honesty, they are probably better than most fenders and are boutique without the price tag. Both the winders frequent these forums, check out their websites for clips.



                    http://www.bg-pups.com/

                    http://www.rosepickups.com/
                    One MIA Fender Strat, one Gibson Les Paul, one Martin Acoustic, what more do you need?

                    http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/...ps92b32f13.gif

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                      Quote Originally Posted by mh0520
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                      I've never heard of either of those companies until now. I'm fairly naive in terms of pickups; I've pretty much only heard the big names and a few of the boutique names. Does anyone else have any comments on either of these other companies? The price tag is definitely appealing.



                      Thanks for sharing.




                      In all honesty, they are probably better than most fenders and are boutique without the price tag. Both the winders frequent these forums, check out their websites for clips.



                      http://www.bg-pups.com/

                      http://www.rosepickups.com/
                      One MIA Fender Strat, one Gibson Les Paul, one Martin Acoustic, what more do you need?

                      http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/...ps92b32f13.gif

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                      • #12
                        The N3s seem to be hated around here, but I find them great! I own 2 Fender Deluxe Strats, one with SCN's and one with N3s, to be honest, I would never replace them. But then again, I have an Ultra with Lace sensors and I love them too, which is again just the opposite of what I've read about them from people on this board. Lifeless, quiet, bland, generic are some of the adjectives used to describe them around here, but I would never use any of those words to describe the sound of my Ultra Strat...Choice of pickups is very subjective and what works for you might not work for others...
                        <div class="signaturecontainer">&quot;Really the only way you can get good, unless you are a genius, is to copy&quot; Ritchie Blackmore</div>

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                        • #13
                          The N3s seem to be hated around here, but I find them great! I own 2 Fender Deluxe Strats, one with SCN's and one with N3s, to be honest, I would never replace them. But then again, I have an Ultra with Lace sensors and I love them too, which is again just the opposite of what I've read about them from people on this board. Lifeless, quiet, bland, generic are some of the adjectives used to describe them around here, but I would never use any of those words to describe the sound of my Ultra Strat...Choice of pickups is very subjective and what works for you might not work for others...
                          <div class="signaturecontainer">&quot;Really the only way you can get good, unless you are a genius, is to copy&quot; Ritchie Blackmore</div>

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                            Quote Originally Posted by budalash
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                            The N3s seem to be hated around here, but I find them great! I own 2 Fender Deluxe Strats, one with SCN's and one with N3s, to be honest, I would never replace them. But then again, I have an Ultra with Lace sensors and I love them too, which is again just the opposite of what I've read about them from people on this board. Lifeless, quiet, bland, generic are some of the adjectives used to describe them around here, but I would never use any of those words to describe the sound of my Ultra Strat...Choice of pickups is very subjective and what works for you might not work for others...




                            I agree that tone is subjective and what people like is what they like, however, it is interesting that fender keep trying to invent a better noiseless while their classics don't need to be changed (IE: fat 50's, 54's, 69's etc...). Personally, IMO, if you want good noiseless for a fender price, get Dimarzio's and if you want the best and can break the bank, get Kinmans. Fender is behind in the noiseless stakes, IMO.



                            PS I've owned all the pickups you mentioned, not that I'm right, just have a difference of opinion and am not speaking through my ass.
                            One MIA Fender Strat, one Gibson Les Paul, one Martin Acoustic, what more do you need?

                            http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/...ps92b32f13.gif

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                              Quote Originally Posted by billybilly
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                              I agree that tone is subjective and what people like is what they like, however, it is interesting that fender keep trying to invent a better noiseless while their classics don't need to be changed (IE: fat 50's, 54's, 69's etc...). Personally, IMO, if you want good noiseless for a fender price, get Dimarzio's and if you want the best and can break the bank, get Kinmans. Fender is behind in the noiseless stakes, IMO.




                              I strongly endorse the Di Marzio Virtual Vintage 54 silent pick ups:



                              http://www.dimarzio.com/pickups/stra...vintage-54-pro



                              I got a set of those in my Vigier Expert Retro 54, they are GREAT!!! If you've ever happened to listen to Dire Straits live album Alchemy, i get the same great woody/crystally strat tones as Mark Knopfler (a shame it didn't do the same for my guitar skills.....). FWIW, my strat (or vigier to be exact) is fully maple neck & alder body too.
                              <div class="signaturecontainer">Ant the Les Paul Lover!</div>

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