Members jaybird Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Hey Bogner 4x12 owners! I have a straight 4x12, that is currently loaded w/ Eminence Governors (the way I bought it). I play hard rock and metal mainly. I am considering some different speakers. What speakers do you have in yours, and what do you like / dislike about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members branjispad Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 i have mojos which are totally full of mids... i wanna do the uber x pattern gt75and v30s edit: mines not a bogner 4x12 but i play my bogners through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 I have one loaded with two V30's and two G12H-30's for my Shiva and an Uberkab for use with my Uberschall. I like them both for their intended purpose and really have no complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybogner Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 g12h30's. They have a nice hi mid / treble cut where I can turn my treble and mids up without sounding brittle or honky. I didn't like the high end on V30's, CL 80's sound too efficient, 75's sound too modern for me. Just my 2 scents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J.B. Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 I have V30's in mine and like them, but I've been thinking about replacing them with CL80's, which I think I'd like more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rockstrongo Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Vintage 30's in mine, with two of them going to be replaced with G12H30's in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diezel Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 The best of the best: X pattern with 2-v30s and 2-Eminence Tonkers. Don't waste your $$$ on Celestion G12H. Total POS compared to the Eminence Tonkers. The Tonkers are superior to the Celestion G12H. Just look at the specs and hear them for yourself. And if you don't like the harsh mids and pearcing highs of the v30s, go all Eminence Tonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Savage Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Originally posted by Diezel The best of the best: X pattern with 2-v30s and 2-Eminence Tonkers.Don't waste your $$$ on Celestion G12H. Total POS compared to the Eminence Tonkers. The Tonkers are superior to the Celestion G12H. Just look at the specs and hear them for yourself.And if you don't like the harsh mids and pearcing highs of the v30s, go all Eminence Tonkers. You still have your Herbert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danhops Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 H-30's and V-30s in an X pattern for my Uber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SQUAREHEAD Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Four G12H's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pretaanluxis Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Originally posted by billybogner CL 80's sound too efficient What does efficient sound like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SQUAREHEAD Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Originally posted by pretaanluxis What does efficient sound like? Stiff, not a sweet breakup that lower wattage speakers have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diezel Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Originally posted by pretaanluxis What does efficient sound like? Exhibiting a high ratio of output to input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jaybird Posted August 19, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Originally posted by Diezel The best of the best: X pattern with 2-v30s and 2-Eminence Tonkers.Don't waste your $$$ on Celestion G12H. Total POS compared to the Eminence Tonkers. The Tonkers are superior to the Celestion G12H. Just look at the specs and hear them for yourself.And if you don't like the harsh mids and pearcing highs of the v30s, go all Eminence Tonkers. Hmmm..I've been thinking hard about the G12H30's. I have Eminence Governors, which are "supposed" to be better than V30's. I'm not sure about that though. Different, yes, better, the jury is still out hence this thread. Trying out Tonkers would be next to impossible. Also, I though the Wizard was supposed to be the closest Eminence speaker to the H30, not the Tonker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Diezel Posted August 19, 2005 Members Share Posted August 19, 2005 Originally posted by jaybird Hmmm..I've been thinking hard about the G12H30's. I have Eminence Governors, which are "supposed" to be better than V30's. I'm not sure about that though. Different, yes, better, the jury is still out hence this thread. Trying out Tonkers would be next to impossible. Also, I though the Wizard was supposed to be the closest Eminence speaker to the H30, not the Tonker? Think of The Tonkers as the best qualities of the (G12H30 + V30) all wrapped up into one superior loud speaker. If you really want to push the envelope, try Peter Diezel's custom Eminence loud speakers. They're even more dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thegame Posted August 20, 2005 Members Share Posted August 20, 2005 Currently 2 V30s + 2 G12H30s in my Uberkab in an X pattern. I'm keeping those speakers, but will be changing to V30s on bottom and G12H30s on top fairly soon. I'm just now beginning to notice the phase weirdness of the X pattern. Sounds great directly in front, move a fraction or tilt/turn your head and the tone changes dramatically. Yeah I know 4x12s in general do this, but IMO the X pattern accentuates this even more. Oh yeah, I'll probably be reverting back to 4 ohms at the same time. Much more solid sounding and feeling than 16 ohms. Basically more punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dale B. Posted August 20, 2005 Members Share Posted August 20, 2005 Uberkab w/ V30's and 75's X'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybogner Posted August 20, 2005 Members Share Posted August 20, 2005 Originally posted by pretaanluxis What does efficient sound like? The same way a shake at McDonalds tastes. According to Steak n Shake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Custom Built Posted August 20, 2005 Members Share Posted August 20, 2005 Originally posted by thegame Oh yeah, I'll probably be reverting back to 4 ohms at the same time. Much more solid sounding and feeling than 16 ohms. Basically more punch. You got it backwards...do the math, and you can't refute physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Murk Posted August 20, 2005 Members Share Posted August 20, 2005 Originally posted by Diezel If you really want to push the envelope, try Peter Diezel's custom Eminence loud speakers. They're even more dynamic. Are these speakers in the Diezel 2x12? How does this cab sound compared to the Bogner oversized 2x12 or Mesa 2x12? And is it better than the Diezel V30 cab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willy22 Posted August 20, 2005 Members Share Posted August 20, 2005 All Greenbacks. Sounds BAD ASS. No complaints whatsoever. Bogner cabs rule. I had always heard of the lack of low end w/ greenies, but the Bogner doesn't have that problem at all. I get all the low end I need and it's tight and punchy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members '63-Strat Posted August 20, 2005 Members Share Posted August 20, 2005 I've got a Bogner straight 4X12 with V30s. I think its awesome as is, but would like to try out some different speakers down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thegame Posted August 20, 2005 Members Share Posted August 20, 2005 Originally posted by Custom Built You got it backwards...do the math, and you can't refute physics. I did the math:Custom Built + ignorance = wrong answer. Seriously, I talked to a very prominent amp builder last night and he agreed with me 100% on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pol Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 gotta reply on this one.tonkers are nowhere near a vintage 30 in sound, i tried them next too eachother, and the tonkers have lot's of highs and and big lows, but they don't have that raw, in you face, cutting mids sound that the vintage 30 have, it's just a totally different speaker. i'd stick to celestion, i have yet to hear a really good eminence myself. I owned those diezel custom speakers too, in a diezel 4 x 12, and while not bad, those speakers don't have that classic celestion rock sound imo, the diezel customs sound very clear and punchy, but to clean for my taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StevieRaveOn Posted August 30, 2005 Members Share Posted August 30, 2005 Originally posted by Bob Savage I have one loaded with two V30's and two G12H-30's for my Shiva and an Uberkab for use with my Uberschall.I like them both for their intended purpose and really have no complaints. Bob how does the H30/V30 mix sound compared to just V30s for instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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