Members Holy War Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 Been awhile since I've been around these parts So I get back from my deployment in May and I am thinking of picking up a nice 5 piece starter kit. I live in an apartment in Southern California and have played guitar there for a while with a rockerverb and DSL100 turned up a quarter of the way with no complaints thus far. Is it possible to get an acoustic set with dampening pads and play in an apartment without bring the super on my back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members this is paul Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 No. It's possible with electronics if you live on the first floor, but otherwise the constant kick pedal action will have your neighbors knocking in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleewell Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 kinda want to try this, not sure if it works though and its kinda expensive http://www.audimutesoundproofing.com...-blankets.aspx anyone think it works? i know it wont 100% soundproof but a 40-60% reduction would sure be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phrophus Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 My first thought is not unless it's an electronic kit. Can your DSL turned up 1/4 way keep up with a drummer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Holy War Posted December 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 Originally Posted by this is paul No. It's possible with electronics if you live on the first floor, but otherwise the constant kick pedal action will have your neighbors knocking in no time. I do live on the first floor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diocide Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 Buy a decent used kit. Get a good brand like Yamaha or something used because those starter kits from CB and whatnot are crap. Instead of the muted, I find that Hot Rods are the best for quiet practice. You'll till have to mute your bass drum somehow, but hot rods quiet everything down and still retain feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diocide Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 These are what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 The sound of the stick on the cymbal pads might still be too much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Holy War Posted December 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 {censored} man, I just might get a storage unit or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thurston Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 Get a Roland V-drum set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NinjaRaf Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 My buddy in college used to use an acoustic set with pads on the 3rd floor in his apartment. Never really had problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 Even playing on an e-kit will put out a surprising amount of noise. Really depends on how insulated your apartment is and how cool your neighbors are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thurston Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 Originally Posted by peavey_impact Even playing on an e-kit will put out a surprising amount of noise. Really depends on how insulated your apartment is and how cool your neighbors are. If he's on the 1st floor it should be doable though. YOu're right though, the sticks do still make noise, especially on the rubber cymbals and so does the bass drum pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Thurston If he's on the 1st floor it should be doable though. YOu're right though, the sticks do still make noise, especially on the rubber cymbals and so does the bass drum pedal. Roland has a mesh bass drum. that would help.But still, the cymbals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rear Naked Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Thurston If he's on the 1st floor it should be doable though. YOu're right though, the sticks do still make noise, especially on the rubber cymbals and so does the bass drum pedal. Roland has a mesh bass drum. that would help.But still, the cymbals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zeppelin Rules Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 The drummer in my old band lived in an apt and all he could get away with was an electric kit. Drums are obscenely loud. I don't think you're going to be able get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted December 19, 2012 Members Share Posted December 19, 2012 No way that's going to work in an apartment. I would look at a good electronic set as a possible solution. Besides, if you ever want to record drums then you can hook it up to your computer, send the Midi to Superior Drummer or another drum module and you'll have killer sounding recordings without miking anything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 Originally Posted by this is paul No. It's possible with electronics if you live on the first floor, but otherwise the constant kick pedal action will have your neighbors knocking in no time. Even then, you'd either want very solid walls or some rather cooperative neighbours. Or both. Even an e-drum kit still makes a fair bit of noise. Nowhere near an acoustic kit of course, but you're still whacking shit with sticks.Got a drummer friend you can borrow some sticks and a practice pad from? Coz that'd give you a bit of an idea what it'd sound like in your place hitting just one pad. Then imagine a whole kit of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 yeah, you are gonna want to start looking at a digital kit. luckily you are on the first floor. so the kick action wont pound on someone's ceiling. but padded real drums still put out a ton of sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny Two Tone Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 I have a massive e-drum kit and while I don't live in an apartment I can tell you some key tips to keeping things quiet. Firstly, build yourself one of these platforms. Secondly, the new(ish) Yamaha DTX "XP" series pads are bar none the quietest e-drum pads on the market. Rubberized cymbals aren't actually loud at all if you hit them on the rim since the rim is usually the roll over point of the rubber, providing a squishy zone to hit. Yamaha's PCY135 and PCY155 cymbals are the best bang for the buck, but really any of the fully rubberized "realistic looking" cymbals will do. Just don't buy ANY that are plastic or metal with a cushioned strike zone. They are all loud. The hi-hat is personal choice. You can get the real deal looking ones (eg Roland VH-12) or the more simplistic ones (eg Roland VH-11) but they're noise level is mostly dependent on your force. Again, only buy the fully rubberized ones. The VH-11 is has the best ratio of quiet play, feel, and price. The bass drum is the killer, though. Some bass e-drums are awesome to play on (eg. Yamaha KP125 - best bang for buck bass e-drum) but aren't super quiet. A mesh bass drum (eg. Roland KD140) is the quietest but may be a tad more bouncy than a drummer coming from an acoustic set would want (plus the KD140 is ridiculously expensive). Then, of course, there's the other route of just buying an acoustic kit for cheap and then converting it by building in the triggers and replacing the acoustic skins with mesh heads. It's actually not hard to do, it's by far the best looking option, it's closer to the "real" thing, it's cheaper, and it's quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GREC Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 No way -unless it electronic. That was what sucked about living in NYC -no place to practice unless paying out the a$$ for rehearsal spaces per hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted December 20, 2012 Members Share Posted December 20, 2012 Originally Posted by Johnny Two Tone Firstly, build yourself one of these platforms. Do that. I don't find a huge difference between heavily muted acoustic drums and an ekit for environmental noise. The muted acoustic kit will sound like ass, but it's an actual drum kit at those times you can un-mute. Electronic drums sound OK through headphones... but the feel will never quite be right, and they'll never match the sound of acoustic drums. Your call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny Two Tone Posted December 21, 2012 Members Share Posted December 21, 2012 Originally Posted by ermghoti II Do that. I don't find a huge difference between heavily muted acoustic drums and an ekit for environmental noise. The muted acoustic kit will sound like ass, but it's an actual drum kit at those times you can un-mute. Electronic drums sound OK through headphones... but the feel will never quite be right, and they'll never match the sound of acoustic drums. Your call. Have you heard Steven Slate Drums 4.0? I guarantee you no one out there without professional recording/micing gear can make their drum recordings sound better.The idea that acoustic drums "just sound better" than absolutely everything that the e-drum market has to offer is such an old cliche. Does anyone here play and record drums? Most acoustic drum sets, in an average Joe's home setup, sound like ear rape."...they'll never match the sound of acoustic drums." You silly guys. Ten years from now you won't even realize that what you're listening to is entirely programmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted December 21, 2012 Members Share Posted December 21, 2012 Originally Posted by Johnny Two Tone Have you heard Steven Slate Drums 4.0? I guarantee you no one out there without professional recording/micing gear can make their drum recordings sound better.The idea that acoustic drums "just sound better" than absolutely everything that the e-drum market has to offer is such an old cliche. Does anyone here play and record drums? Most acoustic drum sets, in an average Joe's home setup, sound like ear rape. Where did I mention better/worse? Sample libraries are great, I have BFD myself. Nothing sounds and feels like acoustic drums, and I'm not talking about recording. Originally Posted by Johnny Two Tone "...they'll never match the sound of acoustic drums." You silly guys. Ten years from now you won't even realize that what you're listening to is entirely programmed. I'm not talking about ten years from now, I'm talking about the entry-level e-kit he is going to buy tomorrow. Ten years from now doesn't help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted December 21, 2012 Members Share Posted December 21, 2012 Originally Posted by Johnny Two Tone Have you heard Steven Slate Drums 4.0? I guarantee you no one out there without professional recording/micing gear can make their drum recordings sound better.The idea that acoustic drums "just sound better" than absolutely everything that the e-drum market has to offer is such an old cliche. Does anyone here play and record drums? Most acoustic drum sets, in an average Joe's home setup, sound like ear rape."...they'll never match the sound of acoustic drums." You silly guys. Ten years from now you won't even realize that what you're listening to is entirely programmed. how are you still alive with no oxygen reaching your brain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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